South China Sea issue expected to be discussed during three-country visit – by Li Xiaokun and Zhou Wa (China Daily) 08:06, August 10, 2012
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Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi embarked on a three-stop visit to Southeast Asia on Thursday, in which the South China Sea issue is expected to top discussions.
Chinese experts believe Yang will seek understanding from the island nations on the territorial issue, including Indonesia, which plays a leading mediating role in discussions inside the Association of Southeast Asian Nations.
The foreign minister will also focus on building better bilateral relations during the trip, as Beijing does not want to see its broad ties with the region dominated by the issue.
Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang said on Wednesday that Yang will pay official visits to Indonesia, Brunei and Malaysia from Thursday to Aug 13, at the invitation of his counterparts from the respective countries.
The visit comes as Beijing’s tensions with Hanoi and Manila in the South China Sea increased in recent months.
China, the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia and Brunei all have claims over some islands and waters in the South China Sea.
During his visit, Yang will also co-chair, with Indonesian Foreign Minister Marty Natalegawa, the second meeting of the joint committee for bilateral cooperation between the two governments.
“In my view the Indonesian visit is targeted more at bilateral ties,” said Yang Baoyun, an expert on Southeast Asian studies at Peking University.
Still, he said Beijing recognizes Indonesia’s mediation efforts on the South China Sea issue.
Indonesia has played an active mediating role in discussions on the South China Sea dispute after foreign ministers of the 10-member ASEAN last month failed to issue a joint communique at their meeting in Phnom Penh because they could not agree on a paragraph about territorial disputes.
Natalegawa then embarked on a 36-hour “shuttle diplomacy” tour to the Philippines, Vietnam, Cambodia, Malaysia and Singapore that resulted in ASEAN member states agreeing on a joint statement outlining ASEAN’s six key principles on the issue.
On Wednesday Natalegawa warned of a “risk of further tensions” in the South China Sea if a “collective and common approach” is not soon agreed on. He was referring to a code of conduct on the South China Sea issue designed to reduce tensions.
He said he hoped to compare notes on the South China Sea with Yang during his visit.
Peking University’s Yang Baoyun said the key point on which to achieve consensus in any code of conduct, is that the proposal cannot challenge China’s sovereignty.
Japan captured and then released the above 14 activists . . . face saving move by Japan to not appear weak yet not offend Fatherland China too much . . .
ICCR Notes :
Further tensions would be what the hawks in China might want, Noda is playing right into their hands. If further tensions occur, the result will be 10 times what Japan did in WW2 and 10 times as difficult to counter, multiplied by USA’s 10 times poorer status than in WW2 in which case China drove out all US and other invaders as well. USA is tied up in the Middle East, there will be no ‘white nation rescue (and recolonization either even as Japan looks to naver have shaken off USA’s WW2 victory to be more independent) this time round, not that a American extreme rightist backed or run Asia via Japan’s backdoor to the East, would be anything wonderous or to be proud of, almost worse than when the colonial powers butchered their way into the Americas and the Red Indian Native populations in the 1400-1800s (we all saw what happened at Vietnam which failed in either case).
Any provocation to war will be to China and China’s allies advantage and the Noda Administration’s political loss. Suggest that all offending parties accede to China’s and Korea’s, also Russia’s reasonable demands instead of provoking China. Given that Kuril and Dokdo also Diaoyu are now being reclaimed, Japan really should think carefully if a Manchukuo style ‘Syria’ could occur in Japan with the 3+1 powers of China, South Korea and Russia – North Korea definitely will want in on the action as well . . . and USA has never been as unready as now, being stuck in the Middle East to take on such a grouping.
Suggest that Japan’s current government accede to all parties reasonable demands instead of provoking all parties, Noda’s coalition is already poorly thought of enough as of now from the as of yet unresolved Fukushima disaster which might have reached all the way to Tokyo by some reports. A peace coalition willing to not cause wars (not that this is a war tha Japan could win) on top of nuclear disasters, should easily find much support among a peace loving Japanese coalition to topple an unpopular Japanese government.
Frankly the Kurils look the worst to challenge on, Russia alone could take on the USA today, most definitely Japan, and Japan should simply give face to Russia, while China has both historical and ethical rights to the islands, with the 2 Koreas still smarting over wartime atrocities in which Japan wouldn’t print some useless pieces of Banana Notes to allow some WW2 abused women to find closure and enjoy life abit with (not that fiat will not be finished in due course) before dying, BLACKENING Japan’s name eternally, the world will all remember Japan watching the victims of aggravated MILITARY pimping, die instead of receiving offerings of apology and offering some material comfort.
Well ‘Japan Peace Coalition’? Ready to topple the Yasukuni Shrine visiting , WW3 causing Noda government – you people of Japan? Will be too late when that Pacific trench finally swallows up Japan, all who did not act appropriately will rue the day the Noda government stayed in power and damned all the reputations of all Japanese worldwide . . .
Japan could be the QIfeng 2 if Japan is not careful, with ships on either side being Russia and China . . .
Commentary: Japan’s abstaining from shrine visit positive, but history reflections still needed (Xinhua) 08:06, August 15, 2012
BEIJING, Aug. 14 (Xinhua) — Japanese Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda reaffirmed Friday that he and his cabinet wouldn’t visit the Yasukuni Shrine that honors the war-time dead including top war criminals on Aug. 15, the 67th anniversary of its World War II surrender.
The announcement was a positive sign and should be applauded, but Japan, in order to earn full acceptance and understanding from neighboring countries, perhaps should make more efforts in reflecting upon its wartime past.
It is comforting to see that since the Democratic Party of Japan came in power in 2009, not a Japanese prime minister has visited the shrine.
In contrast, despite strong protest from China, South Korea and some other Asian countries, Japanese leaders, in the past decades, from time to time, visited the shrine that honors 2.5 million Japanese killed in wars, including 14 Class-A war criminals.
Noda’s latest decision could be regarded as a means to alleviate growing public anger in neighboring countries against Japan’s unrepentant attitude toward World War II, in which Japanese forces invaded the countries and brutally killed tens of millions of people.
The prime minister was aimed at calming the nerves of neighboring countries it invaded, especially China, and preventing Sino-Japanese ties from falling into an “unimaginable abyss,” as a Japanese newspaper said in a recent commentary.
Japan’s pragmatic take on historical issues with China and other Asian countries is on the right track, but it is still far from a complete reflection upon and rectification of its war aggressions.
A growing force of right-wing extremism is stoking nationalism within Japan. It refuses to acknowledge the invasive nature of the war, sees Japan’s surrender on Aug. 15, 1945 as a national shame, and advocates for a victim-of-war mentality as Japan was hit by two atomic bombs before its surrender. Many Japanese people still grudge to see its history as it was.
The Noda Administration could cleverly remove the Class 1 War Criminals’ names from the shrine THEN visit Yasukuni Shrine. But that form of lateral thinking seems impossible for Japan’s current generation of corrupted and unethical leaders . . . perhaps a new coalition is still needed . . .
ICCR Notes :
(The Noda administration has released the 14 activists on 17th August 2012 and did not visit the Yasukuni Shrine, a hopeful possibility for the new ASEAN reality and a safer Japan for the Japanese who understand the above facts and do not want to be on the wrong side of history. . . )
Time to expel the illegal squatters on Diaoyu? Use non-lethals, and if China manages to avoid any squatter deaths at all, sending all ILLEGALS back to Japan (perhaps just retaining 14 to be charged/arrested with squatting THEN releasing later similarly), China would have set a historical precedent that Israel and the world could learn from (use TONS OF SLEEPING GAS or tranquiliser darts to solve the Gaza problem and appear humane Israel!!! Stop messing with the nukes or other poisons – CONVENTIONALS ONLY!)
. . . If Japan pushes too hard by actually killing any Chinese troops in this suggestion of a squatter roundup with non-lethals, the Chinese can kill/execute in a civilised manner an equal number later, then withdraw diplomats then send a proper military force not intended to push into Japan’s mainland . . . a border skirmish might be needed to affirm territorial integrity. A cold war China is going to be a very unpleasant China.
Diaoyu Activist . . .