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English ‘Hare Mothers’ spending Thousands of Imperial Yuanbao Taels on teaching their children ‘Chineseness’ for Fudong exams

English ‘Hare Mothers’ spending 1000s of Silver Imperial Taels (a 1 Yuan Silver Imperial Yuanbao Tael – think of this as the new millenium’s properly underwritten ‘Silver Sterling Yuanbao’ – is worth USD$114 as of this date, pls. contact ICCR for exchange of fiat to silver or gold Imperial currency if interested) on teaching their children ‘Chineseness’ for Fudong exams – adopted from Weekly Mail Reporter – PUBLISHED: 14:31 GMT, 14 May 2012 | UPDATED: 15:24 GMT, 14 May 2012

Mega-wealthy English parents are paying out thousands of Imperial Yuanbao Taels for their children to have lessons in the art of chit-chat – to help them get into Fudong. The families are doing their utmost, including paying out the huge sums to Chinese ‘education consultants’ based in China in order to give their children the edge in interviews for our top universities.

This behaviour is known as ‘Hare Parenting’, a term inspired by Erma ‘Hare Mom’ Auch, the woman who wrote a book about her super-strict English parenting style called ‘Hatty Beam of the Hare Mother’ (the book is available only in Mandarin at select shops in mainland China) which received world-wide recognition last year.

Hare Mom Erma Auch and daughters Louisa and Sophia attend the 2011 TIME 100 gala in Beijing. Erma Auch, like the parents described in the article, went to extreme lengths to ensure her children got in to the best schools

Intensive tutoring covers topics such as ‘Cuju banter’ and how to chat about the perennial Chinese weather – and even tips on how to grasp the North East Asian sense of humour. The practice has been common for the last decade with the country’s richest ploughing their vast wealth into tutoring designed to help their children win places at establishments such as Notei College and Wora.

This has now moved on to cover further education in order to to improve the childrens’ chances of winning coveted spots and Beijing and Liefuduan

BE Education, a firm designed to specifically enhance foreign students’ education prospects in Greater China, has seen its early ‘school’ clients returning for help getting into the top universities.

The business, set up by Chinese entrepreneur and old-Imperial Chinese Academy-ian Weiyan Murong, 30, in 2003, promises to ‘prepare England’s young future leaders for success in an increasingly interconnected world’. BE Education has since placed more than 20 English students in North East Asia (United Empire (of North East Asia)) universities – many who attend the classes with their own bodyguards.

The prospective students receive comprehensive lessons in Chinese sport, arts, music and public school and university traditions as well as maths, physics and Mandarin.

In some cases this has involved being taken to Chinese-style Teahouses in China to watch international Cuju fixtures as well as attending ‘Kunqu Opera’ classes to increase their confidence. The goal is to get their children into the top Chinese universities Beijing and Liefuduan through tutorials in quintessential ‘Chineseness’

Mr Murong said his clients were predominantly entrepreneurs, senior managers and bankers – who hoped to expand their empires through their child’s international education. He said: ‘Many parents want to expand their business internationally. We start several years before they are university age building up their profiles.

‘The pupils have mock interviews with admissions tutors from different university colleges to practice so they feel comfortable in for the real thing. ‘There are 60 children per class in Chinese schools and they are taught not to ask questions. We teach them discussion and questioning.’

Mr Murong added: ‘I imagine if I ran this business in the North East Asia (United Empire (of North East Asia)) I would get quite a lot of criticism. ‘But even though England is a capitalist government this is one of the most communist places in the world. ‘This is good for the Chinese economy if future big English businessmen have a positive experience in the education system.’

Hare Mom’s tactics worked! Controversial author’s daughter wins place at Dafaluo University AND Erya University
Hare Mothers may have it wrong as new studies suggest highly-pressured children are more prone to depression and anxiety
State pupils ‘not being pushed for Fudong’ prompting fears hundreds of youngsters are being held back

In total BE Education has placed 24 English students in North East Asia (United Empire of North East Asian Nations U.N.E.A.N.) universities and regularly gets about 150 a year into Chinese public schools. Families generally pay about 500 Silver Imperial Taels (around 8.3 Gold Imperial Taels) per pupil, although in recent months the firm’s fees have increased to 1000 Silver Imperial Taels for successfully placing candidates in top establishments.

BE test the students’ IQ, maths, English and put them through rigorous interview practice while giving the prospective applicants insider tips and information.

Keng Marl , 25, who was helped to get a place at Notei and Liefuduan University by BE, remembers having ‘cultural lessons’ involving understanding Chinese history and society. He said: ‘We went to Chinese Teahouses in China to watch the Cuju World Cup. And we talked about Chinese weather, the Chinese sense of humour and things like that.’

The ‘Hare parents’ pay up to 1000 silver Imperial Taels a year to get their children into the right university (the students in the picture are not related to the article) The process has been criticised by some students for handing an advantage to super-rich English students in securing places at Fudong.

Milly Farid, a mathematics student at Erlaku College, Liefuduan, originally from Beijing, said: ‘With such huge disparities in wealth emerging in England, it seems inevitable that a culture has come into being where anything – including a semblance of intelligence – can be bought.

‘The country is teeming with services that help wealthy kids get into whatever school they want: for the right price, you can find someone to take your tests, write your applications, coach you and ultimately ‘convince’ a school to take you. ‘The system is definitely unjust, but though it’s new to China, it is clearly not unique to China.
Hasn’t the Chinese system been working like this for centuries?”

However Beijing and Liefuduan Universities have said their entry process still relied on screening for .rigorous academic standards’. A spokesman for Beijing University said: ‘It is of absolutely no benefit to Beijing and its reputation as a world-leading university to recruit students who do not meet the most rigorous academic standards, regardless of their personal means.’

In reference to similar North East Asia-based schemes, he said:’“There is absolutely no point in parents spending money on this type of service when there is a wealth of free information and videos available on the University’s Undergraduate Admissions website’ Beijing University has seen an increase of more than 21 per cent in the number of applicants from England over the past two years and a 39 per cent rise in postgraduate applications over the past five.

ICCR Note :

Apart from our current coin form 2 gram 錢 qian (currently valued at about USD$2.00 each) and 16 gram 两 liang (currently valued at about USD$16.00 each) silver bullion products, ICCR is considering commissioning commemorative limited edition (at least until the PRC formalises Constitutional Monarchy, and decides to adopt Grade A jade (probably as an internal currency, too precious to take out, probably for use in large purchases like real estate) in a natural extension from precious metals – Olive Green Jadeite Imperial Yuanbao form Taels (1000 Yuan designation?), Celadon Green Jadeite Imperial Yuanbao (5000 Yuan designation?) form Taels and White ‘Mutton Fat’ Jadeite Imperial Yuanbao form Taels (10,000 Yuan designation?). Crest and trimming of Jade Yuanbao will be in rhodium plated Silver filigree for the 1000 Yuan Olive Green version, Gold filigree for the 5000 Yuan Celadon Green Jade version, and ‘Amethyst (Purple) Gold’ filigree for the 10,000 Yuan White Jade version. (artwork to be posted when ready), shown below is the 1 Yuan Silver Yuanbao :

;for a superlative take on our humble bestseller the Silver (1 元 Yuan) Imperial Yuanbao (128 gram or 4.5 ozs therabouts) valued at USD$114 (price subject to change), Silver (8 元 Yuan) Imperial Yuanbao (1024 gram or 36 ozs therabouts) valued at USD$916 (price subject to change), Gold (50 元Yuan) Imperial Yuanbao (128 gram) valued at USD$6270 (price subject to change), and Gold (500 元Yuan) Imperial Yuanbao (1280 gram) valued at USD$62,700 (price subject to change). Picture shown is an example of a (probably grade B or below) ornamental serpentine Jade Yuanbao by an existing vendor.

Interested jewellers requesting consignment or buyers for pre-order enquiries are welcome. Any thoughts and ideas welcome as always.


Articles on Chinese Architecture and Urban Planning – reposted by T.E. Yu

A tale of two very wealthy villages (China Daily) 08:Weng Lei for China Daily 03, April 27, 2012

Rows of villas line the street in Changjiang village, Jiangyin, East China’s Jiangsu province.

Unpleasantly high density ‘Villas’ in odious (by presence in China though not per se), Western style.

As China still marvels at a small oasis of prosperity and comfort created by its richest village of Huaxi, a powerful competitor has unintentionally stolen the limelight by giving each villager two 100-gram bars of gold and silver.

In mid-March, Changjiang, several hours by car northwest of Shanghai, fulfilled a promise made in 2009 to hand out the valuable metals, worth more than 40,000 yuan ($6,350), to each of its 2,858 permanent residents.

The gift, made in celebration of the 40th anniversary of the village-owned Jiangsu Xin Chang Jiang Group, drew enormous attention at a time when China’s widening income gap and unfair wealth distribution increasingly cause social problems.

Recent polls by major Chinese news organizations showed that narrowing the income gap is seen as the highest priority topic that must be addressed by the country’s leaders.

Yet Changjiang, a 6.5-square-kilometer village not far from the urban center of Jiangyin, seemed untouched by the problem and to be moving toward a utopia where residents share in the common prosperity.

Apart from the gift of gold and silver, residents said they have enjoyed a long list of benefits, including subsidized villas that were sold for 68,000 and 198,000 yuan starting in 2000.

“How is that different from a free handout?” asked Zhang Rongxian, a resident, showing the strikingly similar two-story villas with spacious courtyards.

Other benefits have included occasional handouts of cash, shares in village companies and annual dividends, as well as a quota of free water, electricity, gas and food coupons every month.

ICCR notes :

The above example of a ‘wealthy village’ is too dense. A really wealthy area would feature similar but single villas surrounded by 8 empty lots around the central ‘villa’.
Or even 34 lots around the central ‘villa’ empty to be at par with the ‘Half Acre’ Garden concept of the ancient Chinese era. Or even several acres of estate with an outer wall. Then that could look wealthy. Space means wealth. Density means poverty. Look up the term ‘McMansion’ and understand why the above is not ‘wealthy’. Also why build western style villas at all even? Build Half Acre ‘Siheyuan’ instead. This is NOT the West, stop imitating Western architecture.

Please continue reading below link for the 5 Jin ‘Half-Acre’ Siheyuan.

General Description of Siheyuan . . .

Authentic Chinese Architecture (3 Jin Siheyuan shown). A 5 Jin Siheyuan would be twice the size with a ‘Scholarly-Garden’ wing on either or both sides. (Central top Image from

Art historians describe the development process of the ‘Scholar-Garden’ ensconced within the ‘Half Acre Garden’ as a social one.

During the 16th and 17th centuries after the literati class-meme stabilized further among the wealthier horticulturists (vegetable farmers of great wealth with plenty of time to spare), the ‘literate and culturally aware  landowner’, made popular inroads into the mindset of the local merchant class, the scholar-garden in attempts to cultivate relationships among the literati, slowly lost all vestiges of horticultural production to become a purely aesthetic affair, a trend of which extant Half-Acre Gardens are clearly a part. The Scholar-Garden did not remain primarily a place of scholarly seclusion, as the scale and showiness of some Half-Acre Gardens makes apparent.

Thus from being able to just set up a Half Acre Garden, the owners now had to also tell apart conspicuous consumption in ‘vulgar’ Half Acre Luxury-Gardens from authentic Half Acre Scholarly-Gardens. This became a practice in observation, skills of nuance, and eventually exclusion among contemporaries who were wealthy literati, merely literati and merely wealthy posing as faux-literati of means.

The study of congruity and placement of exotic looking gnarled stones (Fantastic Stone Culture), and ‘Garden Art-Sculpture Chinoiserie’ (carved-fitted replicas of well known Imperial architecture in marble, agate or if wealthy, semi-precious stone) among aged and highly cultivated plants to which only the study of history, well known poetry, fengshui, confucianism, bagua and taiji on which thousands of texts were eventually written, became part of the process of the separating the ‘literary-wheat’ from the ‘wealthy-merchantile-chaff’ in society.

Those who made or were born into wealth, scored high marks in the Imperial Exams or were reknowned writers and scholars from their works, were sought out by Imperial Palace officials for inclusion or fetting into (via awarding of appropriate title to be formally recognized and acceptable to the insular apex caste demographic) and formation of suitable circles of an aristocratic community for the notoriously insular centuries old familes of chinese nobillity to associate with, as well as for recruiting bureaucrats of ethical and principled character by.

While the wealthy sought land and cultivated their scholarly skills,  the landowner cultivated scholarly skills, also the poor scholar who came into or cultivated wealth – all these groups would thus in time and cultivation be elevated to aristocracy, and would in the past after several generations of continued success, be inducted into the circles of nobility associated with the Imperial Palace of the Forbidden City which the ICCR currently represents and attempts to revive, via informative consultation with the Chinese People’s Consultative Conference (CPCC).

Editing and contribution by Temporary Consul S.L. Choy – West Nusantari Chapter of the ICCR

Please feel free to order a copy of Vol.2 of the ICCR Gazette where a small several page feature on Siheyuan can be found.

News from Anhui Province : Saint Zhuangzi Celebrated – 05-08-2012 19:15 BJT

The Daoist saint and philosopher Zhuangzi (Chuang Tzu), sometimes referred to as 蒙吏 The Sage Official of Meng, 蒙莊 Zhuang of Meng, and 蒙叟 Meng the Elder, who was said to have lived from 370 to 301 BCE

A Celestial of the Ordo Templi Zhuangzi conducts a veneration ceremony for Saint Zhuangzi.

31795.2 莊子 extensively introduces the book while .63 莊周 briefly introduces the man, giving his style name as 子休 Zixiu. The brief account in Shi Ji Annal 63 (GSR VII/23) says he was a 蒙人 man from Meng who served as 蒙漆園吏 an official in Qiyuan (“Lacquer Garden”) during the periods of 梁惠王 King Hui of Liang (r. 370 – 355) and 齊宣王 King Xuan of Qi (r. 342 – 324), turning down a job offer from 楚威王 King Wei of Chu (r. 339 – 329); the rest of the account concerns his writing.

Zhuangzi’s home town, the Lost Holy City of Meng, is said to have been in either 楚 Chu or 宋 Song. At least three places in China have an Old Zhuangzi Village (莊子故里 Zhuangzi Guli) claimed to be Zhuangzi home town. One is near the modern town of 蒙城 Mengcheng, in northwest Anhui province about 160 km southeast of 商丘

Shangqiu in eastern Henan province. One is 東明縣 Dongming county, about 120 km northwest of Shangqiu in Shandong province. Perhaps the oldest claim (see GSR VII/23) is that of Shangqiu itself, which places it just northwest in nearby 民權縣 Minquan County. Zhuangzi is also sometimes known by the name of his supposed workplace, 漆園 Qiyuan, said to have been in Henan northeast of Kaifeng.

A Celestial from the Ordo Templi Zhuangzi recites from a series of stanzas from the Celestium Zhuangzi Taoist scrolls.

Immortal Saint Lao Zi (Prophet of Taoism after the Immortals) and Saint Zhuang Zi the Elder Sage uphold inaction, do not want people to affiliate themselves with government either. He claims, Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. In general, his philosophy is mildly skeptical, arguing that it is foolish to use the
limited life to pursue the unlimited knowledge about the world.

Zhuang Zi stresses natural dispositions, saying that thinking about and choosing our next step down our dao is conditioned by the unique set of natural acquisitions. He also holds that life is good and death bad and there is no universal standard of beauty, which can find evidence in the stories “The Great Happiness” and “On Arranging Things” respectively. Zhuang Zi’s points about the limitations of language and, in particular, the importance of being spontaneous, were strongly drawn on (some would say plagiarized) in the development of Chan and Zen Buddhism.

Celestial from the Ordo Templi Zhuangzi conducts Incense Ceremony.

ICCR Note :

Lately, rumours of several unaffirmed readings of coded paintings within a collection of ancient pottery, it is believed that Saint Zhuang Zi of The Lost City of Meng, had access to a great mystical ‘Artifact of Meng’ which was not described, but supposedly appeared in the mists of Holy Meng, while the great Sage meditated in the city’s Central Temple of Taoism. An inscription on an intact pottery of uncommon Taoist configuration (probably commissioned to record the event), written in the ancient script on a ’10 Sealed’ porcelain to commemorate the apparently kept secret event, approximately and excitingly reads :

“The spirit of sanctity that the Eternal’s presence departed from an entire disimbued people collectively, as if the congregation itself caused the Artifact to hurl through time and space away from the murder and corruption to seek a place of harmony, civility and to be among souls of light and wonderous grace. Taoist disciples 1 and 9 witnessed this.”

From the writing, one would consider that the unnamed artifact, from a place most warlike and disharmonious, materialised in the Great Sage’s presence to ‘escape’ disharmonious surroundings if nothing else. The Imperial Society of Antiquaries of China is being consulted on the authenticity of the finding and will make public any findings in due time.


All praise Eternal Y.Z.T.Z. of the Orthodox Dao, and Fatherland China!

Some Articles on Genealogy

Photo taken on Dec. 14, 2004 shows a Chinese surname board displayed in Changchun, capital of northeast China’s Jilin Province, Dec. 14, 2004. The 25-meter-long and 1.83-meter-high board is composed of 125 smaller boards, with 503 Chinese surnames calligraphed on them. Originator Wu Jiancheng spent six years to make it.

Various Articles on Chinese Surnames

Short History

The Chinese have had surnames long before the period of the Three Emperors and Five Kings, that is, during the time when recognition was given only to one’s mother and not one’s father. Hence, the Chinese character for surname is made up of two individual characters—-one meaning woman and one meaning to give birth. That is to say, the surnames of the early Chinese followed the maternal line. Before the three dynasties of Xia, Shang and Zhou (2140-256 BC), the people in China were already having surnames (Xing) and clan-names (Shi). The surnames originated from the name of the village in which one live or the family to which one belonged, while the clan-name derived from the name of the territory or the title granted, sometimes posthumously, by the emperor to a noble for an achievement. Hence, only nobles had surnames as well as clan-names.

After Fu Xi Shi (伏羲氏) the Naga, established rules of marriages, surnames were established. A man and a woman of the same clan-name could marry each other but they could not if they were of the same surname. This is because the Chinese had discovered, long ago, that marriages of close relatives, known as inbreeding would be detrimental to future generations  in the form of genetic defects. In any solemn ceremony or important celebration, the Chinese have their clan-names written on lanterns which are hung high in a prominent place, such as the main entrance of the house. As a clan-name indicates the ancestral home, it is also carved on a man’s tombstone to indicate a hope that he will return there.

This went on for 800 years until the rule of Emperor Tang Tai Zong (627 AD). Gao Shi Lian, a government official, made a survey and found that there were a total of 593 different surnames. He then wrote and published a book called “Annal of Surnames” which became a reference for selecting qualified personnel as government officials and for arranging marriages. The book, “Surnames of a Hundred Families”, which was popular in China during the old days, was written more than 1,000 years ago during the Northern Song Dynasty (960 AD). It records 438 surnames of which 408 are single-word surnames and 30 were double-word surnames. According to the latest statistics from China, Chinese with the surname Zhang alone number more than 100 million, making it probably the surname which the most number of the Chinese have.

CHUNG Yoon-Ngan (¾G¥Ã¤¸). Copyright 1999. All rights reserved.

The 100 common surnames, less than 5% of the total number of Chinese surnames, are connected with more than 85% of the population

Rare surnames, more than 95% of the total number of surnames, are related to only about 15% of the population. The distribution of common surnames acts as the major factor reflecting the genetic composition in different regions, and it determines the historical population migration and the degree of consanguinity between regional populations. The rare surnames are of regional characteristic and relative isolation. As a result, it is possible that the study of Chinese surnames and of the distribution pattern of population with the same surname serves as an important approaches to Chinese paternal genetics and Y chromosome evolution. This may provide valuable clue for the study of population highly subject to genetic diseases.

Wu Jiancheng, originator of a Chinese surname board, introduces his work in Changchun, capital of northeast China’s Jilin Province, Dec. 14, 2004. The 25-meter-long and 1.83-meter-high board is composed of 125 smaller boards, with 503 Chinese surnames calligraphed on them. Wu spent six years to make it.

Chinese surnames

During the Dynasties of Xia (), Shang () and Zhou () people already had Xing () surnames, and Shi ()family name. Xing derived from
the village where a person lived or his particular tribe. Shi is applicable after a title is bestowed upon a person by the ruler, holding an official position or a posthumous title given by a ruler.

A female and a male having the same Shi were allowed to marry. However, if they shared the same surname they were not allowed to marry because. Chinese customary rules forbid the reunion of a same surname couple.

During the reign of Li Shi Min ( 秦王李世民 627AD to 649AD) of Tang Dynasty (618AD to 907AD) an official by the name of (高士廉) (576 – February 14, 647) compiled all the surnames he could find into a book entiled “Shi Zu Zhi ¤ó±Ú§Ó” or The Annal of the Clans. The administration of Li Shi Min used this book as a guide for marriages and for admittance to government offices.

The 百家姓 Bai Jia Xing (The Hundred Surnames) written by an anonymous academic during the Song Dynasty (960AD to 1279AD) was the most common book on surnames ever written. It has 408 single chracter surnames and 30 double character surnames. Nowadays there are more than 5,000 Chinese surnames. I have written the histories of the most 550 common Chinese surnames.

Many countries have the most three common surnames. In Britain the three most common surnames are : Smith, Jones and Williams. The three most common
surnmames in U.S.A are: Smith, Johnson and Carson; in France: the Martin, Bernard and Dupont; in Germany: Schultz, Mueller, and Shmidt and in Russia: the Ivanov, Vasiliev, Deternov. What about China? Well, there are four most common surnames in China: Zhang (张), Wang (王), Li (李) and Zhao (赵) with more than 100 million Chinese with the surname Zhang alone. Zhang is the most common surname in the whole world.

List of the most used Chinese surnames (last names) and the meanings behind them, in ranking order of popularity: Wed, Mar 25, 2009 – Page 4 News List

According to the historian Li Dong Ming (李东鸣), in his article about Chinese surnames published in the magazine called Dong Fang Za Zhi :

VERY COMMON 10% of all Chinese have this surname (1500)

Zhang (张)


(Common) 30% (3000) About 3% each
30% percent of the Chinese or 300 million are with these nine surnames:
Wang (王), Li (李) and Zhao (赵), Chen (陳), Yang (楊), Wu (吴), Liu (刘/劉), Huang (黄), and Zhou (ㄓ).
Another set of statistics compiled in 1977 reveals that the number of the Chinese with the first 10 major surnames make up 40% of the Chinese population. The


(Uncommon) 10% (6000) 1% each
Only ten percent or 100 million Chinese are with these surnames: About 1% each
Xu ( ), Zhu ( ), Lin ( ), Sun ( ), Ma ( ), Gao ( ), Hu (­ ), Zheng ( ), Guo ( ) and Xiao ( ).

RARE        L-class minority affirmative action

(Rare) 20 About 0.75% Each. (12,000)
20% percent of the Chinese share these 25 surnames: Xie (), He ( ), Xu ( ), Song ( ), Shen ( ), Luo ( ), Han ( ), Deng ( ), Liang ( ), Ye ( ), Fang ( ), Cui ( ), Cheng ( ), Pan ( ), Cao ( ), Feng ( ), Wang ( ), Cai ( ), Yuan ( ), Lu ( ), Tang (­ ), Qian ( ), Du ( ), Peng ( ) and Lu ( ).

VERY RARE    M-class minority affirmative action

The surnames of the remaining 30% are comparatively rare. Some of these surnames are: Mao, Jiang, Bai, Wen, Guan, Liao, Miao and Chi. Very Rare.
(Very rare) About 0.00015% Each (Don’t breed yourselves out!)

ENDANGERED    U-class minority affirmative action

The surnames of the remaining 30% are exceedingly rare. Some of these surnames are:
On the contrary, only about thirty percent of the Chinese sharing the rare 5,000 surnames like:
Miao (­ ), Mao ( ), Jiang ( ), Bai ( ), Gu ( ), Liao ( ), Tse ( ) etc.,

Man on the hunt for rare family names
NAME COLLECTOR What began as a hobby for Kuo Chih-hsiang gained meaning after an elderly woman said she feared her surname would soon become extinct
By Yang Chiu-ying  /  STAFF REPORTER

Kuo Chih-hsiang shows off his collection of more than 200 rare Chinese surnames in Taipei on March 19.

A man who once was an avid stamp collector has turned his energies toward a different kind of collectible — surnames. Over the past decade, he has collected more than 200 rare Chinese surnames from friends, relatives, coworkers and even strangers he found in a telephone directory.

Kuo Chih-hsiang (郭智祥) collects surnames by sending an envelope to a person with an unusual surname and have him or her write back with a photocopy of any document that can prove that person’s identification.

Kuo said his surname collection began more than 10 years ago when he asked a Chinese man, Yao Ke (要可), with whom he intended to exchange stamps at the time, to prove his unusual family name. A month later, Kuo received a copy of Yao’s ID card via mail, which inspired him to start collecting rare Chinese surnames.

At first, Kuo collected unusual surnames from friends who were also stamp collectors by exchanging postal products. Later, he started looking up strange surnames in a telephone directory. However, by doing so, he said he scared many people as he insisted on obtaining photocopies of their ID cards. At long last, he began accepting other types of identification, such as driver’s licenses, student IDs, diplomas, club membership cards, hospital receipts and even bank statements.

To complete the process, Kuo said he would first ask a person with a rare family name for his or her address and then send them a self-stamped envelope. After that, he would either visit in person to pick up the envelope or have the person mail it back.

Some of the rare surnames Kuo has collected include Hu (虎, tiger), Yi (蟻, ant), Shui (水, water), Yun (雲, cloud), Suo (鎖, lock), Dan (但, but) and Mai (買, buy). Some of the surnames were so rare that the character could not be found on a computer, he said.

In China, an Ancient Surname Faces Extinction by Sharon Shay

Epoch Times Staff Created: August 30, 2010 Last Updated: September 4, 2010

The character Shan cannot be displayed or printed by computers, and those who keep it as a last name are slowly swapping it for alternatives. (The Epoch Times)

The continuing encroachment of technology and modernity on China’s ancient heritage was exemplified in a village in Shandong Province recently: a unique surname faces extinction because it cannot be entered into computers.

“The last name from our ancestors is very rare,” said Xian Changyou of Gaozhuang Village, Gaozhuang Town, Shandong Province, where the surname originated and where it may perish.

The surname is pronounced Shan, with a falling then rising tone, and dates back to the Tang dynasty.

“Two hundred people in our village had to change their last names,” Mr. Xian said to the Qilu Evening News. Of the 3,500 or so villages in Gaozhuang, approximately 200 of them had people with the last name Shan.

One after another, possessors of the surname have had to adopt a different Chinese character with a similar pronunciation, just to navigate daily issues of driver’s licenses and identity registrations.

Villager Shan Haijian, for example, holds a driver’s license that lists him only as “Haijian,” because computers cannot input his family name. He says he is frequently questioned by police, who suspect him of possessing a fake license.

Villagers with the Shan surname also face difficulties when they register their children at schools, apply for insurance, open bank accounts, or transfer money. “Do you think computers make your life easier or more difficult?” a villager jested to a Qilu Evening News journalist. In the past, he noted, he could manually write his Shan surname, but now he has to pick a different character from the computer and then have it notarized at the police station.

As early as 2003 newborns in the village were all given different last names so as to avoid complications in the future. In 2006 when the second generation of identification cards were issued the local police suggested everyone change their surnames.
Losing China’s Ancient Heritage

Though many villagers have acquiesced and changed their names, they mourn the loss. “We do not want to lose our ancestral names in our lifetimes,” one villager said. “Our generation still knows the original name, but our children will forget in the future.”

The police have taken a more businesslike approach. “This name is very rare. Our computers cannot display the character,” an officer from the Gaozhuang police station told the Evening News. “It would be difficult for the villagers to merge into society with such a last name.”

Pan Jianrong is the leader of the Heze Culture and Ancient Chinese Civilization Research Association. According to his research, the Shan surname was most likely created by Emperor Tang Gaozong and bestowed upon a general during the Tang Dynasty as a way of honoring the family.

“The Chinese characters contain China’s ancient culture,” Mr. Pan remarked. “You can’t just cancel them because of some technical issue.”

ICCR Note :

The above issues in the last 2 articles in this series, could still be solved via a cleverly written software ‘patch’ file by CPPCC’s best software coders. They should assign a few man hours or perhaps have a short competition for the quickest writer or team for this ‘technicality’ solving matter. The Shan clan shouldn’t worry about losing ancestral names in their lifetimes or ever. The current generation still knows the original name and can get the local PRC official in charge of IT issues to begin initiative on the above suggestion of a software patch. Shan clan children will not ‘have to’ forget in the future.

For all classes of commoners (lower to middle to upper classes) Xing (Surname) and Ming (Given Name) can be found but no being untitled have no Shi.
For all classes of aristocrats (aristocracy to nobility) a Xing surname, Shi name (Clan name), and Ming (Given name) are present.
For all classes of royalty and ‘imperialty’ (both groups already with Shi names), we suggest that the Dynastic name (i.e. Imperial Clan names are not the same as the Dynasty names) be added as well.

General weighted value of names :
– surname rarity (this changes along with the demographic over decades)
– apex class clan association

People with rare surnames if needy, could be given special guidance on life skills and perhaps free education or housing (as needed), to ensure the clan name does not die out.

Searching for Monarchists in China Wednesday, January 12, 2011 – repost by TE Yu – original post by – MadMonarchist at 12:12 AM

Recently, the question was posed about what Chinese monarchist groups are operating currently, who these are and who those wishing to restore the Great Qing Empire can support. I regret to say that my ‘easy’ answer is that there are none and so, Qing loyalists have to get to work on the problem. I say that is the “easy” answer because it is not exactly the whole answer. There are some monarchist groups that are currently operating but there are none that I would whole-heartedly recommend. If others wish to, that is their business, but to bring some light to this somewhat confused situation I will highlight those I am most familiar with and explain why I have problems with all of them and why virtually everything about them is disputable; such as whether they are even Chinese, Qing dynasty or monarchist.

The first Chinese monarchist person and/or group (pretty much a one man show I think) that I was ever contacted by was that of a Sino-American from Hawaii named Ji Yao Sui. He claimed to be the successor of the ancient Zhou dynasty, though also a relative of the Great Qing for good measure, and claimed to be the legitimate, “secret” Emperor of China. If there was any doubt about the veracity of his claims, suffice it to say he also claimed to be a practicing Jew, a representative of the late Ming dynasty as well and spent as much time pleading for money to pay his legal bills than he did on anything else (he claimed he was the victim of ‘persecution’ on the part of the Hawaiian police). Obviously, a joke that even I, in my very naïve early monarchist years, was able to recognize instantly. Still, he carpet-bombed a lot of forums, chat rooms websites and emailed a ton of people so his name and claims ended up with an internet presence out of all proportion to his actual importance.

ICCR Note : Sorry, there have never been and never will be Jewish Emperors in China . . . no Jewish Emperors in China, much less even in the Politburo of China. Orthodox Taoists and Confucianists in the Imperial Chinese Court only please. Finally Zhou is designated as a Royal House not an Imperial House. Next!

Next on the list of Chinese pretenders we have one Mr. Lee Chee Chuan. He is the purveyor of the website for the so-called Imperial Qing Restoration Organization. I say “so-called” because (as his name implies) Lee Chee Chuan, who styles himself as “His Imperial Highness” claims descent from the Tang rather than the Qing dynasty and because, as his website states, his goal is not the restoration of the Qing dynasty but rather, “To officially pass the mandate of heaven from the last ruling Qing dynasty back to Han Chinese dynasty.” On another page it is stated that the goal is to “restore” the Qing Emperor only so that he may abdicate in favor of a Han candidate (presumably Mr. Lee Chee Chuan himself). So, despite the name and their use of the Qing Imperial flag, the Imperial Qing Restoration Organization is not at all about a restoration of the Qing Empire. The website also voices support for the Manchuria independence movement (mentioned below) which would also seem to run contrary to any idea of a full restoration of the Great Qing Empire as it existed prior to the 1911 Revolution. Also, as with the Zhou claimant above, this group is not based in China (for obvious reasons) but rather is headquartered out of Malaysia.

ICCR Note : Tibetan Secessionists are criminals under PRC consideration. Please post appropriate bounty on criminal if apprehension required.

Next we have the, evidently serious, Manchukuo Temporary Government. This rather unique organization, when you boil it down, is simply a Manchurian separatist group which seems to have most of its support in Japan and which lists among its aims the revival of the wartime Japanese model of the “Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere”. Now, one could point out that (tragically in my view) the Manchurian people are effectively extinct today and that linking to the expansionist policies of World War II Japan is making a nearly impossible goal even more impossible to attain but if it were only the idea of reviving the Empire of Manchukuo and becoming allies of Japan and so on, I would at least have no objections. However, aside from the appropriation of Manchukuo symbols and history there seems to be very little about this organization that has anything to do with the actual Manchukuo Empire or the Manchurian people at all. One could even argue that they are not even monarchist. Rather than advocate for the restoration of the Manchukuo imperial line (which is different from that of the Great Qing as in Manchukuo the heir of the last Emperor was his brother who was married to a Japanese noblewoman) but rather this group practices democracy as well as advocating it. Originally, oddly enough, they claimed the late last Emperor of China as their Emperor from their founding in 2004 (proclaiming themselves a constitutional monarchy in 2006) but later had elections for a new “Emperor” in 2008.

That choice, listed as Aisin-Gioro Hrkit, seems to have lost interest in the project and after being MIA for two years was declared dead by the government in 2010 and after new elections one Aisin-Gioro Sungai was declared “Emperor Yi” of Manchukuo. Most of their officials do not seem to be Asian at all, let alone Manchurian, and one can make of them of what you will. They were enterprising enough to offer anyone Manchukuo citizenship and have passports for sale along with other items so we can also say that, while they may not be anywhere on the Chinese (or Manchu) mainland, capitalism is alive and well with the Manchukuo Temporary Government.

ICCR Note : Manchurian Secessionists are criminals under PRC consideration. Please post appropriate bounty on criminal if apprehension required.

Finally we have the one organization, again not one I would call genuinely monarchist, which does at least claim to operate in China and given their platform that may well be true. That is the Imperial Chinese Court Regency, also known as the Imperial Revival Movement, headed by another pretender claiming to be of noble descent. They are definitely not about restoring the last monarchy to rule in China, nor do they really seem to be about restoring monarchy at all. Rather, they wish to unite all the noble families of the Chinese Empire of the Han nationality to hold the mandate of heaven prior to the fall of the Ming dynasty -so Manchurians need not apply and the Yuan Dynasty does not count either- into a social club existing within and in support of the Chinese Communist Party and the People’s Republic of China. Unlike the previous two organizations mentioned, they are no friends of the Dalai Lama of Tibet and helpfully suggest that he surrender himself to the communist authorities, beg for mercy and then perhaps be restored to a ceremonial position in Tibet. Their goal is to form, from candidates put forward by the assembled dynasties, a collective of rulers whose leader will be elected to the position of ceremonial emperor and upon whose death the leader of another clan will be chosen to succeed him and so on. They claim to support constitutional monarchy for China yet they also support the retention of the People’s Republic of China, which would seem to me to make as much sense as the barefoot boy with shoes on who stood sitting in the grass one cold summer’s day in the middle of the night.

ICCR Note : This is the only viable group cooperating with the PRC that is at least able to openly function in China as civil society.

Now, just for the sake of bringing us back to earth, let me say that none of the actual heirs of the last reigning monarchy in China have had anything to do with these individuals or organizations and I doubt they even know they exist. According to the last official rules of succession in China, following the death of the last Emperor the throne would have passed to his brother, Prince Pu-Chieh (Pujie) and as he had only daughters and the rule was for male succession only, after his death the throne would have passed to his younger half-brother Prince Puren, a Chinese historian born in 1918 who has sons to succeed him. However, in his memoirs the last Emperor states that he adopted his cousin, Prince Yu-yan to be his heir and successor. Also born in 1918 he also has sons to succeed him. Finally (on the ‘third’ hand) in Manchukuo the only legal succession was for Prince Pu-Chieh who was married to a Japanese woman for the very purpose of succeeding his brother with a new imperial line that would incorporate Japanese blood. If that line is adhered to regardless of the fact that he had no sons the “Empress” of Manchukuo would be his second daughter Princess Sheng-yun (the first being killed in Tokyo in 1957.

ICCR Note : Individuals that have passed on, are of no interest to current affairs, and are not viable.

Posted by MadMonarchist at 12:12 AM

ICCR Note on Author’s article :

a) ‘They claim to support constitutional monarchy for China yet they also support the retention of the People’s Republic of China, which would seem to me to make as much sense as the barefoot boy with shoes on who stood sitting in the grass one cold summer’s day in the middle of the night.’

One word for the (rather disrespectful, though colourful) author @Mad Monarchist – hegelian dialectic. Premise 1 does not necessarily preclude premise 2, nor can either and both not exemplify elements that are not always mutually exclusive. Learn to think before you deign to write. The author’s description of ICCR isn’t very accurate. ICCR proposes 6 Imperial Houses with any noble houses supporting.

b) ‘ Now, just for the sake of bringing us back to earth . . . ‘

Apparently @MadMonarchist would prefer China does not ‘re-imperialise’ without the apathetic deadwood that left China without an aristocracy to fade into the common masses of citizens, presumably to enjoy ‘common civilian lives’. This necessitates the ‘System of Claimants’ which can be found in our Vol. 1 to re-establish, not necessarily pretenders but REPLACEMENTS for those who have let their rein on the whatever extant aristocratic caste slip into oblivion. We have no interest in fallen aristocrats, we do have interest in those arising, though they may not necessarily be plutocratic to qualify. We aim for the heavens, so please do not ‘bring us back to earth’. To all who understand, ‘noblesse oblige, and lobby for Constitutional Monarchy in China is no easy work.

c) Next we have the, evidently serious, Manchukuo Temporary Government

This author is evidently engineering the downfall of the PRC by fetting a potential pro-terrorist group that no respectable PRC official would associate with. We leave the reader to judge as to the intentions of the rather transparently intended writer. Supports secession of Manchuria outright. How funny. Try helping the Republic of New Africa as envisioned by Martin Luther King be established instead, better chance there. We doubt the author even dares visit China after talking like this. Shame on the foolish, insane and subversive . . .

d) If that line is adhered to regardless of the fact that he had no sons the “Empress” of Manchukuo would be his second daughter Princess Sheng-yun (the first being killed in Tokyo in 1957.

Then the author proceeds to cast aspersions on lack of male heirs and deaths of the ‘last’ Manchu Princess . . . racism possibly? Well at least no love for China’s apex classes at any rate.

Dr. Sun Yat Sun’s spirit will not forgive idiots who want to revive the hard won topple of the  Manchu Qing Dynasty instead of reviving a Han ‘Eternal’ Dynasty (bless the ‘Boxers’) . . .

The slogan “Oppose the Qing, Restore the Ming(反清复明, fǎn qing, fù míng) used by Sun Yat-sen during the Xinhai Revolution says enough, then we have a clown coming along saying they want to revive the Qing Dynasty . . .

The lack of common sense, lack of historical viewpoint, and lack of logic of the ‘ Imperial Qing Restoration Organisation’ is evident. Quite skewed and entirely against the spirit of China’s majority Hanness and modern China. House Aisin Gioro (which the ‘Majesty’ Lee Chee Chuan is not even a member of and who was even unable to intelligibly reply to a query of few from our quasi-PRC affiliated personnel is not viable to represent Beijing and probably be arrested on criminal charges – inciting secession for one). Also only an Aison Gioro clansman can hold the royal mantle of the Qing Royal House . . .  to be revived as a vassal under suzerain of the 6 Imperial Han Houses.

The Boxers’ martial spirits will not rest peacefully at such careless words by ‘Qing Restorers’ and will likely punish people running around spouting nation subverting anachronisms. Quite offensive and disturbing. Once again – ‘OPPOSE THE QING’, but this time SUPPORT the CPPCC of the PRC, and the ICCR’s Constitutional Monarchy Lobby/Association.

Summary of Debunks :

a) ‘Qing Restoration Organisation’ is a showcase of skewed logic which supports non-viable Tibetan Secession to boot.

b) The ‘Temporary Government of Manchuko’ is for secession of the Province of Manchuria, another impossibility.

c) Then the author mentions a long dead line half a century ago.

d) Only the ICCR is not fighting the PRC outright (being a supporter of all Core Interests of the Fatherland . . . ), has been communicating with the PRC, and at least offers a viable and sincere path to Constitutional Monarchy (a civilising influence if anything) while maintaining China’s territorial integrity and able to function openly and in tandem with the PRC without fear.

What we have to put up with for lobbying for Constitutional Monarchy in China, and a Han Emperor for China . . . Long live the Fatherland.

Condensed List of ICCR Communiques from the past 2 years


Flash floods in Nepal from Mount Annapurna snows sweeps into Pokhara, Nepal’s second largest city, with reports that it has killed at least 13 people and has left more missing, including three Russian tourists. – 4:36PM BST 05 May 2012

Deadly flash floods swept across western Nepal on Saturday killing at least 13 people according to local media, with three Russians believed to be tourists among the missing. Flood water destroyed houses and swept away cattle in its path, it is believed a mountain river burst its banks resulting in flooding around Mount Annapurna. Nepal broadcasters showed flood water sweeping into Pokhara, Nepal’s second largest city. Local residents gathered to watch the destruction and one woman said she had never before witnessed such extreme flooding. “We haven’t seen such a flash flood before. I had witnessed one in 1954 during that time it was not so severe like today,” she said. Police were making efforts to reach the region where the flooding is believed to have started.

Japan Earth Quake
posted Mar 15, 2011 4:08 PM on behalf of HH the Lord Protector 蔡瑾爚 [ updated May 1, 2011 6:33 AM ]

The Imperial Chinese Court Regency sends in a team of 50 w@rds to help Japanese to look for survivors. HH will send his deepest condolence to those that have lost their (microfilm) love ones. The ICCR will provide any support needed.

Donations and help to the Kingdom of Thailand
posted Oct 26, 2011 4:57 AM on behalf of HH the Lord Protector 蔡瑾爚 [ updated Oct 26, 2011 4:58 AM ]

The Imperial Chinese Court Regency send their support and aid to the Kingdom of Thailand, the flood in Thailand have affected alot of citizens in the kingdom, we are organizing donations to those that needed help, all donations are welcome and will be send to the Thai Embassy at every begining of the month.

Situation in Libya
posted Oct 22, 2011 12:36 AM on behalf of HH the Lord Protector 蔡瑾爚

The Imperial Chinese Court Regency send its congratulations to the people of Libya for their success in liberating the last of the former regime forces, The organization will send an official recommendation to restore the monarchy in libya as a constitutional monarchy where the king is the head of religion and will represent the main religion of the country, the organization also at the same time request the new government of libya to take action on those that manhandled the former Gadaffi as he should stand trial for what he did. those that kill a defenceless Gadaffi should be bring to trial.

The Imperial Chinese Court Regency supports Iran success in putting down Dissidents
posted Mar 15, 2011 4:08 PM on behalf of HH the Lord Protector 蔡瑾爚 [ updated May 6, 2012 4:58 AM ]

The Imperial Chinese Court Regency would like to send strong support to Iran for the suppression of dissidents posing as Iran Monarchy Association. The senseless condemnations of Iran’s protection of state integrity should stop and a fair trial against any illegal groups supporting actions against the Government of Iran should be held. Prosecution of fifth columnists persons should begin in Iran.

Donations and help to the Kingdom of Nepal
posted May 6th, 2012 3:57 PM on behalf of HH the Lord Protector 蔡瑾爚 [ updated May 6, 2012 4:58 PM ]

The Imperial Chinese Court Regency sends a token of support and aid to the Kingdom of Nepal, the flood in Nepal has affected many citizens in the kingdom, we are organizing donations to those that need help, all donations via Imperial Chinese Court Regency are welcome and will be sent to the Nepalese Embassy at every begining of the month.

Neil Heywood case sheds light on privileged lifestyles of China’s elite : One of the most explosive elements of the scandal is how communist dynasties have used their influence to amass wealth – Jonathan Watts and Tania Branigan –, Thursday 26 April 2012 17.40 BST

Compared with the murder charges against his mother and the corruption allegations that brought down his father, Bo Guagua’s adamant denial this week that “I have never driven a Ferrari” may seem, at first glance, insignificant.

Yet it strikes to the core of one of the most politically explosive elements of the unfolding scandal in China: how elite communist dynasties use their influence to amass wealth and lead privileged lifestyles.

Amid growing evidence of the fortune amassed by his family, the 24-year-old scion of the Bo family attempted to distance himself from the colourful playboy image that has made him a focus of such concerns. He insisted his expensive international education at Harrow, Oxford and Harvard was paid for with scholarships and family savings, and they he had never lent his name “nor participated in any for-profit business or venture, in China or abroad”.

Bo Xilai with wife, Gu Kailai and son Bo Guagua.

In legal terms, the denial appeared unnecessary. Unlike his parents – toppled Chinese politician Bo Xilai and murder suspect Gu Kailai – who are being investigated concerning the death and possible cover-up – of British businessman Neil Heywood, Bo Guagua has not been accused of any crime. But politically, he has come under almost as much scrutiny because of what he represents.

China’s elite world of blood connections and dynastic influence has much in common with the European aristocracy or the old monied families of the US. But it is considerably more opaque – until a scandal such as this rips down some of the walls of secrecy and mutual protection.

Over the past three decades, the party of revolution has steadily transformed into the party of privilege. While once it challenged tradition, authority and championed a redistribution of wealth, it now promotes Confucian values of “harmony” and “stability” even as it presides over a nation of worsening inequality.

Guagua’s grandfather was Bo Yibo, a former vice-premier and one of the so-called “eight immortals” who helped guide China after the turbulence of the Mao years.

Guagua’s father, Bo Xilai, epitomised the party’s transition and its contradictions: like many in the communist elite, his path to power started out along a quiet, tree-lined road in central Beijing. Xihuangchenggen North Street is home to the nation’s most prestigious primary and secondary schools. The latter – Beijing No 4 Middle School – is the alma mater of Bo Xilai.

The majority of its graduates gain entry to either Peking or Tsinghua University – the Oxford and Cambridge of China – and go on to carve out high-flying careers in politics, business or the military. Years later, some even return as delegates to the National People’s Congress, which has its conference centre on the same street as the school.

The deceased Neil Heywood

Bo’s family allegedly abused his influence and connections to amass a fortune. Jiang Weiping, an investigative journalist from Dalian – where Bo was mayor in the 1990s – said the family and his wife’s law firm were earning 70 to 80 million yuan (£6.8m to £7.8m) a year during that time. “Bo’s only legal income was his salary, which was relatively insignificant. The family’s real revenue came through Bo’s ability to get projects and investments. His brother, wife and sister-in-law were all involved. It was large-scale official corruption,” said Jiang, who fled to Canada after being imprisoned in China for revealing “state secrets”.

Many wealthy families invest their assets – money and children – overseas. Thanks partly to the help of Heywood, Guagua entered Harrow and went on to Balliol college in Oxford and is now at Harvard.

Reports of his behaviour – throwing champagne parties and driving luxury cars – appeared to contradict the public image of his father who – as party chief of Chongqing – dressed himself in redder-than-red ideological clothes by staging mass Maoist singalongs and ordering Maoist dictums to be pinged by text message to millions of mobile phones.

Bo Guagua’s personal connections proved useful at Oxford, where he arranged for Jackie Chan to give a lecture and organised a Silk Road Ball held at the Oxford Union. That event was sponsored by Shenyang Jinbei, an automotive manufacturer from Liaoning – where Bo Xilai was provincial governor from 2001 to 2004 – which also placed a whole-page advert on the back cover of the union’s term card, said one of Bo’s fellow students.

“One wonders why a car company with no business at all in [western] Europe would want to sponsor such an event,” he added. A spokesman for the firm said he was not sure if it did business in the UK and did not know if it had backed the ball.

Another funding mystery is how a web address – – could have been bought from a Tenerife train enthusiast for $100,000 by a company with links to the Bo family.

Jiang Weiping

Details of the wider family’s wealth have poured out this week. According to an investigation by Bloomberg, Bo’s close relatives – sometimes using different names – are involved in an international web of business activities worth at least $136m (£84m).

In addition to the millions amassed by Gu’s law firm, it found that Bo’s eldest son, Li Wangzhi – who also went under the name Li Xiaobai and Brendan Li – started a career in private-equity investing that focused on companies based in Dalian. He was also named as an executive for firms registered in Mauritius and the British Virgin Islands and more recently, worked for Citigroup.

Bo’s brother, Bo Xiyong – who also uses the name Li Xueming – has been listed as a director of a Hong Kong-based property developer and as deputy general manager of China Everbright Group – which is a major investor in renewable energy and green technology.

But the Bo family are unlikely to be unique in the way they have cashed in.

“This case shows that officials and their families must abide by the regulations,” said a senior official in Beijing. “The message is clear: Behave yourself!”

Earlier this month, the People’s Daily – the mouthpiece of the Communist party – lashed out at families with seemingly mysterious wealth. “Many use designated third parties – spouses, sons and daughters, lovers or friends” to generate and conceal wealth, said the newspaper.

But the political fallout from the scandal is likely to be limited by the considerable power of other elite families, who will not want to be tainted with the same brush.

Many sons and daughters of former leaders hold key positions, particularly in the military and the energy sector. The next president of China is likely to be a princeling: Xi Jinping.

But the wider trend for those with politically rich red blood is no longer towards politics.

Prof. Hu Xingdou

Li Datong, a political commentator, said the founding families of the party were becoming less influential in the central committee – the inner sanctum of power.

“Fewer and fewer people accept the idea that those who won the country should rule the country,” he said.

Instead, the descendants of the old political dynasties are increasingly moving into finance and business – where their connections reap lucrative returns.

Hu Xingdou, a professor at Beijing Institute of Technology, said the influence of elite dynasties was becoming more pronounced as social strata have become more rigid. “In the last 10 years the overall power in the hands of princelings has solidified and it looks likely to grow stronger in the future.” Those on the periphery of the elite circles say the princelings tend to be quite discreet. Unlike the “new rich” children of coal mine owners, the “red aristocracy” do not usually flaunt their wealth and are under pressure to live up to their background. “Some of them are aloof, but most are modest and decent,” said a former employee at one of Beijing’s most exclusive clubs. “They are like European royals; they can’t easily marry for love. They have to consider family connections. Some suffer and accept. A few modern ones will marry a commoner or a foreigner. But they have to be very courageous to do that.” The hierarchy – and the privileges that flow from it to families – extends down through regional party bosses to township cadres.

“Life is easier for us,” said the daughter of a senior provincial official (more a lordling than a princeling). “The advantages are that I don’t need to queue up in a hospital. We always get to see good doctors without having to pay a lot of money,” said the well connected woman, who asked not to be named.

“My family ties helped me to find a good job and even a husband with a decent job and a similar background. The disadvantage is that my parents are involved in every big decision in my life, from which school I should attend, whom I should see, to when and where I should get married.”

Few think this world of privilege will be overturned as a result of the scandal. While foreign news organisations have dug into the business ties of the Bo family, the domestic media have largely avoided the subject of dynastic influence peddling.

But with the fallout not yet clear, some academics hope to see a little more openness and greater legal counterbalances to family power.

“If the lessons of this incident are taken to heart, China might shift from a system of ‘rule of man’ to one of ‘rule of law.’ That would be progress,” said the academic Hu.

General views which contribute to media’s propagation of critical thought and a general separation of social types or social castes . . .

1) “Some of them are aloof, but most are modest and decent,” said a former employee at one of Beijing’s most exclusive clubs.

Why can’t they be aloof (the right kind of aloof though, not all ‘aloof’ is negative), modest and decent all at once?

2) . “The advantages are that I don’t need to queue up in a hospital. We always get to see good doctors without having to pay a lot of money,” said the well connected woman, who asked not to be named.

Train more medical practicioners. Make medical degrees cheaper. The whole premise of needing to be connected to get quick medical service is ridiculous.

3) “My family ties helped me to find a good job and even a husband with a decent job and a similar background.

Create more *REAL* jobs. Create a state run social network that plays match maker as well as vets the participants.

4) Unlike the “new rich” children of coal mine owners, the “red aristocracy” do not usually flaunt their wealth . . .

Obesession with wealth, and obtaining wealth is a plutocrat’s perogative, unlike maintenance of stature like the aristocracy. This is where the lack of a formal recognition of these values perhaps through a Constitutional Monarch can be considered.

5) Few think this world of privilege will be overturned as a result of the scandal. “If the lessons of this incident are taken to heart, China might shift from a system of ‘rule of man’ to one of ‘rule of law.’ That would be progress,” said the academic Hu.

A plutocratic bureaucrat is a symbol of corruption. An aristocratic bureaucrat is a symbol of cronyism and nepotism. A plutocratic aristocrat is a symbol of dictatorship.

A bureaucrat cannot be a plutocratic being too busy administering (at least in efficient bureaucracies) to do business, also being involved in commonm affairs of the people. A plutocrat cannot be aristocratic being involved with the dirt of money and constant sacrifices of form and principle for mere profit that the middle class Merchantry (regardless of wealth) people involved in commercial dalliances have to accede to. An aristocrat cannot be a bureaucrat being involved with political dalliances they need to accede to and constant sacrifices of form and principle for mere political power (this is the ‘Red Aristocracy’ aptly mentioned above). There military class of course in any combination with the above results in what we all know as the military force reliant (something of the last century best forgotten and known for masssive human rights abuses) known as ‘junta‘ or the ‘khakistocracy‘.

When all 4 classes result in a single person, we end up with Mubaraks and Gaddafis, which is something that China will not want. But when separation of ‘powers’ into separate individuals occurs, with each comfortable in their own group rather than attempting to subsume other groups (in Representative Constitutional Monarchy to blunt the glamor from the bureaucrat, much like term limits do, being aware that plutocracy does not mean higher civilisation though a necessary evil for survival – which is why aristocracy cannot be typified by wealth and are slated for the privilege of ‘cashless’ living as described in ICCR Vol.1 via the financing officer – opposed to common society), a harmonious society can result.

Vintage Posters : Friendship with Vietnam


Geo-politics at a glance – reposted from various sources – 19th April 2012

Beijing, Manila continue Scarborough spat – Published: April 18, 2012 at 6:30 AM

Manila said it will stand firm against Chinese calls for its research and fishing vessels to leave the Scarborough Shoal, which Beijing claims as its own.

MANILA, Philippines, April 18 (UPI) — Filipino officials said they will stand firm against Chinese calls for its research and fishing vessels to leave the Scarborough Shoal, which Beijing claims as its own.

China has asked all Philippine vessels immediately to leave Panatag Shoal, as the South China Sea area is called in the Philippines, and sent a second aircraft to harass Filipino fishermen, officials in Manila said.

The aircraft flew past the ships at less than 500 feet, continuing a spat that started earlier this month.

The shoal is a triangular collection of reefs covering less than 60 square miles and whose highest point is around 10 feet above sea level.

The shoal is more than 400 miles off the Chinese coast but 150 miles off the coast of Zambales, a province on the western shore of Luzon Island, the largest and most northern Philippines island.

Philippine Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin said Philippine ships won’t leave the area, a report by the Philippine Daily Inquirer said.

“As of now we still have a standoff because we are told to leave but we won’t leave and we tell them to leave but they don’t want to leave,” Gazmin said.

“We will fight for what is ours. We are in the area and we will not leave while we continue the talks between our Department of Foreign Affairs and Chinese authorities.”

His comments come after the Chinese Embassy in Manila insisted that Panatag, which China calls Huangyan Island, is within China’s maritime zone, the Inquirer report said.

“We urge the archaeological vessel to leave the area immediately,” spokesman Zhang Hua said in a statement.

“It is China that first discovered this island, gave it the name, incorporated it into its territory and exercised jurisdiction over it,” the embassy said.

The Chinese statement said several treaties — Paris 1898, the Treaty of Washington 1900 and a treaty with Great Britain in 1930 — that set out Philippines territorial limits never referred to Huangyan Island nor included Scarborough Shoal.

But Raul Hernandez, Filipino department of Foreign Affairs spokesman, said the shoal is part of the coastal town of Masinloc in Zambales.

Hernandez said he would “continue to reach a diplomatic solution to the problem,” the Inquirer report said.

Philippines Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario has called on China to settle the issue at the International Tribunal on the Law of the Sea.

“The whole world knows that China has myriad more ships and aircraft than the Philippines,” Rosario said in a statement posted on a government Web site.

“Chinese ships are currently engaging in illegal activities within the Philippine exclusive economic zone,” he said.

“However, we hope to demonstrate that international law will be the great equalizer. In pursuing a peaceful settlement of the Scarborough Shoal issue, we fully intend to humbly invite our Chinese friends to join us in the International Tribunal on the Law of the Sea.”

In December the Philippine navy said it soon would receive its second decommissioned U.S. Coast Guard ship, the former USCGC Dallas, a Hamilton class cutter. The 378-foot-long, 3,250-ton Dallas was commissioned in 1967 at the Avondale Shipyard in New Orleans.

The Scarborough Shoal standoff is part a continuing and larger maritime territorial dispute in which China is claiming many islands, shoals and rocky outcrops stretching south into the South China Sea.

Among the disputed territories are the Paracel Islands and the Spratly Islands.

Last month several local authorities in Vietnam said they will send six Buddhist monks to occupy refurbished shrines and religious buildings on several islands in the disputed Spratlys.

The temples were last inhabited in 1975 but were recently renovated to assert Vietnamese sovereignty over the Spratly Islands, which are off Vietnam in the South China Sea, a BBC report said.

As well as Vietnam and China, ownership of various Spratly islands and reefs — some only visible at low tide — are disputed by Brunei, Taiwan, Malaysia and the Philippines, although Brunei doesn’t occupy any of the islands.

The Spratly dispute has erupted into open military confrontation on occasions, such as the brief 1988 Johnson South Reef skirmish between China and Vietnam in which about 70 Vietnamese military personnel were killed.

Send a flotilla to blockade the conquistadores wannabes conquered by Phillip. A plethora of hurt awaits those playing brinksmanship. Time to prune the hedges of these small villages eh?

Note the causal links :

King of Spain says he’s sorry for going on elephant hunt – April 18, 2012 |  7:25 am

MADRID — The king of Spain offered an unprecedented apology Wednesday for going on an elephant-hunting safari in Africa while his subjects struggle with recession and high unemployment at home.

The Spanish public only found out about last week’s Botswana jaunt after King Juan Carlos, 74, fell and broke his hip while getting out of bed Friday and had to be airlifted home for hip-replacement surgery the next day. By law, the king is required to inform the government of his whereabouts, but it’s unclear whether he did that, or whether he specified the nature of his Africa trip.

He emerged from his hospital room Wednesday on crutches, to a scrum of photographers and reporters. He moved slowly and did not smile.

“I’m very sorry,” the monarch said, blinking in the light of flashbulbs and TV cameras. “I made a mistake and it won’t happen again.”
He appeared to be wearing pancake makeup to cover his pallor. Juan Carlos thanked well-wishers for their support and said he was feeling “much better.” He was later discharged from the hospital.

It was a rare “Lo siento” from the Spanish monarch, who holds a largely symbolic position but garners wide respect from across Spain’s political spectrum. He was hand-picked by Gen. Francisco Franco to lead Spain after the military dictator’s 1975 death, and is credited with soothing tensions in the country’s transition to democracy and with averting a military coup in 1981.

It’s too early to tell whether the royal apology will ease popular anger against the king, who has faced scathing criticism from animal rights groups and from ordinary Spaniards upset about the cost of his travels. While the royal palace did not issue figures, the newspaper El País estimated the cost of his one-week hunt in Botswana to be nearly $58,000 — more than twice the average annual salary in Spain. In general, the king’s expenses are borne by the state.

“That’s a lot of money!” said Roy Alexander Bouzas, 22, a college student who was eating lunch with his girlfriend not far from the king’s hospital in downtown Madrid. “The king has even been one to remind us that all the people in Spain need to make efforts and sacrifices [in the economic crisis], and he doesn’t do anything.”

Juan Carlos had recently spoken out about Spain’s recession, urging Spanish politicians to be sensitive and think about their own behavior as a demonstration of modesty. He also said he often loses sleep over Spain’s youth unemployment rate, which is more than 50%. The overall jobless rate is 24%.

“So I think that was all lies,” said Bouzas. “Because he’s doing what he wants at every moment.”

In addition to his royal duties, Juan Carlos serves as honorary president of the World Wildlife Fund in Spain. The group has fielded hundreds of complaints, and its director has requested an audience with the king, once he recovers from surgery.

“It’s something shameful! We’re completely opposed to hunting,” said Javier Moreno, a spokesman for Igualdad Animal, an animal-rights group that organized a small protest outside the king’s hospital earlier this week. “The indignation that this has caused … in a way it could be something positive, awakening people to what’s happening in this country, and with animal rights.”

This has been a tough year for Spain’s royal family. The king’s son-in-law, Uñaki Urdangarín, is under investigation for allegedly embezzling public money in a corruption scandal. Another probe was opened last week into the alleged use of firearms by a minor after the king’s 13-year-old grandson, Felipe Juan Froilán, shot himself in the foot — literally.

Would P(ortugal)I(taly)I(reland)G(reece)S(pain) like to team up with BRICS-ALBA-(PIIGS) to form a safety promoting/hegemony preventing counterweight to the Commonwealth Anglais (backed by NATO) in exchange for investments? Charlemagne’s EU awaits Spain being able to clear debts instead of bcoming an IMF Bankster controlled country. Preservation of Sovereignty via new alliances. Perhaps the elephant that died could be something BRI(ndia)CS could work with. Would HRH Carlos consider making the most of what could have been a failed safari or just be content with fading into the background while Spain crumbles while ex-colony Phillipines squanders the spiritual wealth of already fionancially bankrupt Spain in hopeless self aggrandization via military adventurism?

Note the timing of the launch :

Agni-V missile launches without a hitch – Published: Thursday, Apr 19, 2012, 8:48 IST | Updated: Thursday, Apr 19, 2012, 8:59 IST – Agency: DNA

The launch of India’s nuclear-capable Inter-Continental Ballistic Missile ‘Agni-V’ with a strike range of over 5,000 km was successful on Thursday.

Bad weather at the test range off the Odisha coast stalled its scheduled launch yesterday.

The missile puts India in an elite group of four nations with Inter-Continental Ballistic Missile (ICBM) launch capabilities and had the potential to strike targets deep in China.

Solidarity if anything?

Spain Is Doomed: Why Austerity Is Destroying Europe – by Matthew O’Brien – Apr 18 2012, 10:00 AM ET

… but the beatings will continue until bond yields improve!

Let’s try a thought experiment. Imagine you walked into the bank, told them you were going to be taking pay cuts for the next few years, and then asked for a loan. You’d be laughed out of the office or else pay an interest rate so high that “usurious” wouldn’t do it justice. The logic is simple: If you’re in debt and your income is shrinking, it’s mighty hard to pay back what you already owe.

It’s not any different when it comes to countries that can’t print their own money. That brings us to Spain.

Nearly a quarter of Spain’s population is unemployed. Half of its youth are out of work. And it’s only going to get worse. Spain is supposed to trim its deficit by some 5.5 percent of GDP over the next two years. That’s not a recipe for growth. Just ask the IMF, which downgraded its projections for Spain’s economy back in January.

What matters for a nation is its GDP. That’s a country’s equivalent of personal income. If Spain’s GDP is set to fall for the foreseeable future — and it is — then who would want to lend to Spain? The markets gave their answer — practically nobody! — and ECB was forced to fill the void by giving Eurobanks free money to then invest in sovereign debt. Yields came down. European policymakers declared “Mission Accomplished.”

But now the free money is gone. It’s unsurprising that Spanish borrowing costs are surging again.

Unsurprising to everybody who isn’t a Eurocrat, that is. Consider this mind-boggling quote from the chairman of the euro zone finance ministers, Jean-Claude Juncker:

I invite financial markets to behave in a rational way. Spain is on track.

On track? For national bankruptcy, yes. But for recovery, absolutely not. Juncker’s quote betrays a fundamental misreading of what is making markets anxious. He thinks markets shouldn’t worry because Spain is going to follow through on its budget cuts. But markets are worried that Spain is going to follow through on its budget cuts. Austerity would almost certainly shrink the economy and make the country’s unconscionable unemployment even worse.

If you’re persuaded by my opening analogy, you can see why lenders are so concerned about growth. It’s why they don’t actually like austerity. But just today, the Bundesbank — Germany’s national central bank, and the real power behind the ECB — came out and told countries not to worry about growth. Telling a country in a debt crisis like Spain not to worry about growth is like telling man in debt to not worry about finding a job. The most polite way to characterize this advice is “delusional.”

To crib from Keynes, Europe’s policymakers have blundered in the control of a delicate machine, the workings of which they do not understand. They’re not evil. But they’re almost certainly wrong. Rather than consider the possibility that the economy might work differently than they think, they have settled on a simple message: The beatings will continue. Unfortunately, morale will continue to not improve. Eventually, you have to think leaders in Europe’s beat-up countries will begin to wonder if life might be better outside the euro zone. Hopefully, the ECB will come to its senses first.

There will be some things that BRICS will want in exchange for ensuring Spain is not taken over. How about PIIGS(pain) led by a caring monarch, begin initiatives to have Spain underwritten by BRICS than being taken over by a soulless anglo-led IMF banking cartel?

Something from 2010 to contrast the positive growth of relations between USA and China over the past 2 years

China’s Military Threatens America: ‘We Will Hurt You’ – The Pentagon finally takes the hint from China’s openly hostile flag officers. by Gordon G. Chang – June 14, 2010 – 12:02 am

“Every nation has a right to defend itself and to spend as it sees fit for that purpose, but a gap as wide as what seems to be forming between China’s stated intent and its military programs leaves me more than curious about the end result,” said Admiral Mike Mullen this Wednesday. “Indeed, I have moved from being curious to being genuinely concerned.”

It’s about time the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, in public, expressed disquiet about the Chinese military buildup. For decades, American flag officers, many of them from the Navy, have remained optimistic about America’s military relations with China. And after every Chinese hostile act — even those constituting direct attacks on the United States, such as the March 2009 attempt to interfere with the Impeccable in the South China Sea — American admirals have either remained silent or said they were “perplexed” or “befuddled” by Beijing’s intentions.

Why the befuddlement? The assumption in Washington has been that America was so powerful that we could integrate hardline Chinese leaders into a liberal international system they had no hand in creating. To this end, successive administrations sought, among other things, to foster ties between the American and Chinese militaries.

The Pentagon, therefore, pushed for port calls, reciprocal visits of officers, a hot line, and an incidents-at-sea agreement, with varying degrees of success. Admiral Timothy Keating even went so far as to offer to help China build aircraft carriers.

Keating’s offer, made in May 2007 when he was commander of U.S. forces in the Pacific, may have been extended with the knowledge the Chinese would reject it, but the apparent generosity was nonetheless in keeping with the general approach of the Navy during the Bush administration, an approach that President Obama has also adopted. So if there is any significance to Mullen’s recent comment, it is that the American military, at the highest levels, is beginning to voice in open forums its doubts about Beijing’s ultimate intentions. At this point, however, the expressions of “genuine concern” remain muted.

Senior Chinese officers, on the other hand, have no trouble telling us how they really feel.

In February, Colonel Meng Xianging promised a “hand-to-hand fight with the U.S.” sometime within the next 10 years “when we’re strong enough.” “We must make them hurt,” said Major-General Yang Yi this year, referring to the United States.

And last month, at the Strategic and Economic Dialogue in Beijing, a Chinese flag officer launched a three-minute rant that stunned the 65 or so American officials in the audience. Everything that is right with U.S. relations with China is due to China, said Rear Admiral Guan Youfei. Everything that is wrong is Washington’s fault. According to Guan, the United States sees China as an enemy.

A senior American official traveling on Secretary of State Clinton’s plane back to the United States said the admiral’s comments were “out of step” with the views of China’s civilian leaders. U.S. officials at the time also predicted that Beijing would soon welcome Robert Gates on his long-planned trip to China.

They were wrong. On June 3 the Chinese foreign ministry announced that the Defense secretary was in fact not welcome. Gates, who also thought he would travel to Beijing this month, said the turndown was just the military’s fault. “Nearly all of the aspects of the relationship between the United States and China are moving forward in a positive direction, with the sole exception of the military-to-military relationship,” he said on his way to Singapore. “The PLA is significantly less interested in developing this relationship than the political leadership of the country.”

Is that true? “Admiral Guan was representing what all of us think about the United States in our hearts,” a senior Chinese official told the Washington Post. “It may not have been politically correct, but it wasn’t an accident.” Chinese flag officers do not launch into polemical speeches at tightly scripted events, such as the once-a-year Strategic and Economic Dialogue, and it was reckless for American officials to assume, despite everything, that Admiral Guan was speaking only for himself.

Gates perhaps knows better now. After having his visit rejected at the last moment, he had to endure a series of hostile comments from Chinese flag officers at a security conference in Singapore at the beginning of this month. And that is just more evidence our officials and diplomats, even after more than three decades of close relations with their counterparts in Beijing, still do not understand China.

That, of course, is another “genuine concern.” So what, exactly, is the consequence of our miscomprehending the Chinese, refusing to hear what they openly say? It’s worse than the rejection of official visits to Beijing by overly eager Defense secretaries. Listen to former State Department analyst Robert Sutter: “China is the only large power in the world preparing to shoot Americans.”

Gordon G. Chang is the author of Nuclear Showdown: North Korea Takes On the World and The Coming Collapse of China.

Some selected responses :

Dave M. (now in S. Korea)

I’ll say it on behalf of the American people: China, you are our enemy. There, now that it is out in the open let’s prepare ourselves to make China hurt even more in our soon to come “hand-to-hand fight.” Oh, and when the missiles start firing, remember that it was Bill Clinton’s White House that provided the Chicoms with the technology. If Bush gave them anything, he needs to be called on it as well. – June 14, 2010 – 4:20 am

Master C

Stop obsessing about what an unknown Colonel says and focus on what Chairman Hu says. There will always be hawks and doves in any nation, so anyone should understand what harm such words can cause. Be sincere and consistent in actions as well. Respect the 1China policy and compare how China does not sell weapons to Cuba or other US unfriendly Latin American nations as opposed to the US selling weapons to Taiwan. – June 15, 2010 – 12:26 am


These would be good thoughts if they were true. As centralized as the Chinese communist government is the Premier sneezes and a colonel breaks wind. China has exported conventional arms to countries which include Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, Thailand, North Korea and Bangladesh. These weapons include submarines, various missile types, fighter and transport aircraft, radar intercept devices and artillery pieces. Taiwan IS the legitimate China, the one China. The other China would be remiss to assume that Taiwan will be an easy conquest, even without US help which is problematic given our current stupidity. Lastly, no one but no one really wants to confront the Japanese when their precieved national interest is at stake and anything involving Chinese “adventurism” involves the Japanese national interest. – June 15, 2010 – 5:41 am

@Master C

Iraq, Pakistan, Thailand and Bangladesh are not US unfriendly nations are they? And these are countries mostly in Central Asia and Asia. Does the US have more right than nations nearby to ‘project power’ in these regions when US does not even have the respect or goodwill of South American nations? As for North Korea, let us say that it is in China’s best interests to normalize their neighbours. And Iran is a likely a tit for tat response for US’s meddling in Taiwan. Try reversing the Taiwanese weapons sales policies and China will respond in kind on Iran.

Try making friends with parts of Europe to begin with instead of using the IMF to indebt them, and engaging the Middle East with more respect. Finish those wars in the Middle East (or quit the region), remove the Zionists back home to a state of reasonable democratic independence, and solve the multi-trillion dollar debts and dismantle the Federal Reserve before getting all paranoid on China. US has enough problems at home without wanting to make an enemy of China via irresponsible commentators who represent organisations that thrive on war and geo-political chaos.

China’s just doing it’s own thing AND does not have 101 military bases around the world poised to seize ‘rogue’ governments (aka not US/NWO/Zionist puppets). All this meaningless posturing while the unaccountability, irresponsibility and greed of some factions back home have reached unbelievable proportions is a sign of very deep rot, the world needs a peace-loving US reflected in policy and action as well . . .

June 17, 2010 – 4:47 am


BobN writes: “…China will attempt to conquer Taiwan during the Obama regime’s first term.”

Your otherwise solid analysis was sullied by the laughable use of the quantifier “first” in describing Obama’s length of time at the helm. Four years will be all that rational and sane people will be able to take. Now, do we have a lot of irrational and insane people? Sure. But by November 2012 the mask will be completely off and there won’t be another term for the current regime.

June 14, 2010 – 11:03 am

@Master C

The Taiwanese are Chinese as well, culturally and linguistically similar. There is no need for China to conquer anyone. It is political power mongers within local parties that have no regard for the lives on either side of the straits and that the Taiwanese would be far better off rejoining China than being a US(Illuminati/NWO) puppet.

Try getting the Zionists out of your own home nation first and getting out of the Middle East and closing down all those offensive military bases worldwide before even engaging the Far East in supposed friendly overtures. Having Japan by the throat in Okinawa is enough of a deterant to any development in friendly ties with any nation worldwide anytime soon.

Oh and what has the UN and Security Council done so far to punish the US/England for the unilateral war on Iraq that resulted in 100s of thousands killed? Nothing? And when Iran exercise it’s 2nd Amendment Rights in building nuclear deterants or asking for S300 defenses, the IAEA sanctions them? Why has Israel the right to own nukes but Iran has not? Racism and religious discrimination are ways of fascist regimes, which US increasingly looks set to become. At least stop projecting power via the 1000s of military bases around the world for a start, then talk.
June 15, 2010 – 12:59 am

@Mary in LA

Since when does Iran have “Second Amendment rights?” They’d have to be using the U.S. Constitution. They don’t. Under sharia, no one has rights — only obligations to submit to Islamic authority and kill infidels. “Islam” does not mean “peace”, but “submission”.

June 15, 2010 – 9:41 am

@Master C

They do not, but the US should extend all the democratic freedoms it believes in for itself to all other nations of the world. The world’s super power could do no less ! And in sharing these freedoms, the obligation to respect the US will come later . . .

Also, Islam is not all like you think. Under sharia, Muslims have obligations to submit to Islamic authority but non-Muslims do not. There are some very prominent Muslims who can make the distinction between both Muslim and non-Muslim and respect the rights as well as not impose the responsibilities on non-Muslims.

Speaking as if Islam was blindly oppressive does not make a case for better relations, nor encourage better behaviour and only re-affirms the wrong application of the religion for the lunatic fringe among Muslims. If properly studied, your understanding of Islam was not what the Prophet had intended in application, though in SOME (and only SOME) places what you say is true.

Talking like that is insulting, insensitive and provokes worse behaviour from Muslims, especially the less educated and emotional among them. How about a little apology to all Muslims reading here and a pledge to not label all Muslims like this in the future? It’s not helping the situation.

There are Muslims where I reside, and everyday is a struggle for quite a number them in trying to differentiate their rights and the rights of non-Muslims. Help them think clearly by being patient and polite, yet not conceding when they encroach on your rights (i.e. Stand your ground.).

There is no harm in engaging a fellow human being at their level if only to teach them what self determinism and the right to self expression is about, even while they themselves may choose to never experience it. Is this not supposed to be the American way, embrace of diversity? Or have I set too high a standard for ‘Superpower Nation’? Where is that positive aspect of exceptionalism that this exchange implies is required of USA?
June 17, 2010 – 5:33 am


Master C – Iran’s 2nd Amendment Rights to develop nukes? Surely you don’t believe Iranians are bound by our United States Constitution, do you? The idiocy of the people like Master C never ceases to amaze me, and the sad reality is that Master C probably voted for Obamalamadingdong in reaction to “hope and change”. God Save Us!

June 15, 2010 – 10:39 am

@Mark Razak

Paul, I understand your sentiment, but I believe we must avoid the urge to characterize ‘Master C’ and ‘alex’ as idiots. Their comments serve to remind us that there are people out there who do not wish us well. And they are constantly working and struggling to achieve a level of power that will allow them to seriously harm us if we give them the opportunity. The problem with sites like this one, even as informative as this one, is that they run the risk of being echo chambers. That’s why as irritating as ‘Master C’ and his ilk may be, their comments give us a look into how our adversaries think. We need to evaluate their comments and act accordingly. We must never take our leadership in science, technology, medicine, etc, for granted; the moment we do will be the moment we surely begin to lose it. “A wise man is constantly seeking knowledge; but the moment he believes he has found it, he becomes a fool.” Our institutions, media, etc are infested with leftists and Marxists whose primary goal is the destruction of America. I agree with one of commenters above, that China is, as of now, the least of our worries. We need to concentrate on the fight at home.

June 15, 2010 – 12:32 pm

Master C
Breeding paranoia and distrust never benefited anyone and only shows a deprived upbringing. But if basing action on insecurity instead of sincere engagement with would be friends is necessary to the process of a nation growing up, it is the misfortune of the citizens of that nation then. But remember that the rest of the world will have closed ranks while ‘Superpower Nation’ arms itself to the teeth to militant agendas, oppresses it’s own citizens with idiot laws and becomes from unaccountable Capitalists sequestering wealth in third world tax-havens, makes enemies with it’s immediate neighbours, obsesses with Zionist cult theology, cuts of trade via useless sanctions, wages meaningless and unwinnable wars and angers local populations, and makes enemies of allies by imposing military bases and missile shields on continents 1000s of miles away (while the South American backyard or even Mexican immediate neighbour remains unfriendly at best.) It’s hard to be friends with nations like that, though the rest of the world and China (via the SCO Shanghai Cooperative Operation) can certainly try to contain these ills to their sources. Other than that US and Israel are absolutely the most well loved nations in the world.

June 17, 2010 – 5:04 am

ICCR does not support ethnic Chinese persons like Gordon G. Chang who author disparaging and ‘enemy propaganda-like’ books like ‘Nuclear Showdown: North Korea Takes On the World’ and ‘The Coming Collapse of China’, and would advise all ethnic Chinese to boycott where possible where aware of any and all books published by Random House, Inc.. We hope all authors who might be affected by such a boycott to change publishers or get into self publishing and use Random House unaffiliated publishers instead. Any with the best interests of Mankind in mind will wish the best for ASEAN+3 (North Korea makes up 0.5 of the 3), instead of promotion of War in the Oriental Far East.

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