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Update : Late August 2012 – Diaoyu Isles – reposted by M.Murong – 19th August 2012

South China Sea issue expected to be discussed during three-country visit – by Li Xiaokun and Zhou Wa (China Daily) 08:06, August 10, 2012

The Diaoyu Activists

Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi embarked on a three-stop visit to Southeast Asia on Thursday, in which the South China Sea issue is expected to top discussions.

Chinese experts believe Yang will seek understanding from the island nations on the territorial issue, including Indonesia, which plays a leading mediating role in discussions inside the Association of Southeast Asian Nations.

The foreign minister will also focus on building better bilateral relations during the trip, as Beijing does not want to see its broad ties with the region dominated by the issue.

Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang said on Wednesday that Yang will pay official visits to Indonesia, Brunei and Malaysia from Thursday to Aug 13, at the invitation of his counterparts from the respective countries.

The visit comes as Beijing’s tensions with Hanoi and Manila in the South China Sea increased in recent months.

China, the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia and Brunei all have claims over some islands and waters in the South China Sea.

During his visit, Yang will also co-chair, with Indonesian Foreign Minister Marty Natalegawa, the second meeting of the joint committee for bilateral cooperation between the two governments.

“In my view the Indonesian visit is targeted more at bilateral ties,” said Yang Baoyun, an expert on Southeast Asian studies at Peking University.

Still, he said Beijing recognizes Indonesia’s mediation efforts on the South China Sea issue.

Indonesia has played an active mediating role in discussions on the South China Sea dispute after foreign ministers of the 10-member ASEAN last month failed to issue a joint communique at their meeting in Phnom Penh because they could not agree on a paragraph about territorial disputes.

Natalegawa then embarked on a 36-hour “shuttle diplomacy” tour to the Philippines, Vietnam, Cambodia, Malaysia and Singapore that resulted in ASEAN member states agreeing on a joint statement outlining ASEAN’s six key principles on the issue.

On Wednesday Natalegawa warned of a “risk of further tensions” in the South China Sea if a “collective and common approach” is not soon agreed on. He was referring to a code of conduct on the South China Sea issue designed to reduce tensions.

He said he hoped to compare notes on the South China Sea with Yang during his visit.

Peking University’s Yang Baoyun said the key point on which to achieve consensus in any code of conduct, is that the proposal cannot challenge China’s sovereignty.

Japan captured and then released the above 14 activists . . . face saving move by Japan to not appear weak yet not offend Fatherland China too much . . .

ICCR Notes :

Further tensions would be what the hawks in China might want, Noda is playing right into their hands. If further tensions occur, the result will be 10 times what Japan did in WW2 and 10 times as difficult to counter, multiplied by USA’s 10 times poorer status than in WW2 in which case China drove out all US and other invaders as well. USA is tied up in the Middle East, there will be no ‘white nation rescue (and recolonization either even as Japan looks to naver have shaken off USA’s WW2 victory to be more independent) this time round, not that a American extreme rightist backed or run Asia via Japan’s backdoor to the East, would be anything wonderous or to be proud of, almost worse than when the colonial powers butchered their way into the Americas and the Red Indian Native populations in the 1400-1800s (we all saw what happened at Vietnam which failed in either case).

Any provocation to war will be to China and China’s allies advantage and the Noda Administration’s political loss. Suggest that all offending parties accede to China’s and Korea’s, also Russia’s reasonable demands instead of provoking China. Given that Kuril and Dokdo also Diaoyu are now being reclaimed, Japan really should think carefully if a Manchukuo style ‘Syria’ could occur in Japan with the 3+1 powers of China, South Korea and Russia – North Korea definitely will want in on the action as well . . . and USA has never been as unready as now, being stuck in the Middle East to take on such a grouping.

Suggest that Japan’s current government accede to all parties reasonable demands instead of provoking all parties, Noda’s coalition is already poorly thought of enough as of now from the as of yet unresolved Fukushima disaster which might have reached all the way to Tokyo by some reports. A peace coalition willing to not cause wars (not that this is a war tha Japan could win) on top of nuclear disasters, should easily find much support among a peace loving Japanese coalition to topple an unpopular Japanese government.

Frankly the Kurils look the worst to challenge on, Russia alone could take on the USA today, most definitely Japan, and Japan should simply give face to Russia, while China has both historical and ethical rights to the islands, with the 2 Koreas still smarting over wartime atrocities in which Japan wouldn’t print some useless pieces of Banana Notes to allow some WW2 abused women to find closure and enjoy life abit with (not that fiat will not be finished in due course) before dying, BLACKENING Japan’s name eternally, the world will all remember Japan watching the victims of aggravated MILITARY pimping, die instead of receiving offerings of apology and offering some material comfort.

Well ‘Japan Peace Coalition’? Ready to topple the Yasukuni Shrine visiting , WW3 causing Noda government – you people of Japan? Will be too late when that Pacific trench finally swallows up Japan, all who did not act appropriately will rue the day the Noda government stayed in power and damned all the reputations of all Japanese worldwide . . .

Japan could be the QIfeng 2 if Japan is not careful, with ships on either side being Russia and China . . .

Commentary: Japan’s abstaining from shrine visit positive, but history reflections still needed (Xinhua) 08:06, August 15, 2012

BEIJING, Aug. 14 (Xinhua) — Japanese Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda reaffirmed Friday that he and his cabinet wouldn’t visit the Yasukuni Shrine that honors the war-time dead including top war criminals on Aug. 15, the 67th anniversary of its World War II surrender.

The announcement was a positive sign and should be applauded, but Japan, in order to earn full acceptance and understanding from neighboring countries, perhaps should make more efforts in reflecting upon its wartime past.

It is comforting to see that since the Democratic Party of Japan came in power in 2009, not a Japanese prime minister has visited the shrine.

In contrast, despite strong protest from China, South Korea and some other Asian countries, Japanese leaders, in the past decades, from time to time, visited the shrine that honors 2.5 million Japanese killed in wars, including 14 Class-A war criminals.

Noda’s latest decision could be regarded as a means to alleviate growing public anger in neighboring countries against Japan’s unrepentant attitude toward World War II, in which Japanese forces invaded the countries and brutally killed tens of millions of people.

The prime minister was aimed at calming the nerves of neighboring countries it invaded, especially China, and preventing Sino-Japanese ties from falling into an “unimaginable abyss,” as a Japanese newspaper said in a recent commentary.

Japan’s pragmatic take on historical issues with China and other Asian countries is on the right track, but it is still far from a complete reflection upon and rectification of its war aggressions.

A growing force of right-wing extremism is stoking nationalism within Japan. It refuses to acknowledge the invasive nature of the war, sees Japan’s surrender on Aug. 15, 1945 as a national shame, and advocates for a victim-of-war mentality as Japan was hit by two atomic bombs before its surrender. Many Japanese people still grudge to see its history as it was.

The Noda Administration could cleverly remove the Class 1 War Criminals’ names from the shrine THEN visit Yasukuni Shrine. But that form of lateral thinking seems impossible for Japan’s current generation of corrupted and unethical leaders . . . perhaps a new coalition is still needed . . .

ICCR Notes :

(The Noda administration has released the 14 activists on 17th August 2012 and did not visit the Yasukuni Shrine, a hopeful possibility for the new ASEAN reality and a safer Japan for the Japanese who understand the above facts and do not want to be on the wrong side of history. . . )

Time to expel the illegal squatters on Diaoyu? Use non-lethals, and if China manages to avoid any squatter deaths at all, sending all ILLEGALS back to Japan (perhaps just retaining 14 to be charged/arrested with squatting THEN releasing later similarly), China would have set a historical precedent that Israel and the world could learn from (use TONS OF SLEEPING GAS or tranquiliser darts to solve the Gaza problem and appear humane Israel!!! Stop messing with the nukes or other poisons – CONVENTIONALS ONLY!)

. . . If Japan pushes too hard by actually killing any Chinese troops in this suggestion of a squatter roundup with non-lethals, the Chinese can kill/execute in a civilised manner an equal number later, then withdraw diplomats then send a proper military force not intended to push into Japan’s mainland . . . a border skirmish might be needed to affirm territorial integrity. A cold war China is going to be a very unpleasant China.

Diaoyu Activist . . .

Cherish friendship between China and Japan – Updated: 2012-07-13 13:32 (chinadaily.com.cn)

This year 2012 is the 40th anniversary of the normalization of diplomatic relations between China and Japan. But the Diaoyu Islands issue makes this year different, says an article in Beijing Youth Daily.

Japanese Disputes (Diaoyu is obviously way out of 12 mile territorial and 200 mil EEZ claims. COnsidered against the hostorical background, Japan has no right of claim at all.

The dispute over the Diaoyu Islands created headaches for both countries 40 years ago as well. That’s why both sides agreed to solve the problem prudently in 1972, when diplomatic relations between China and Japan were normalized.

Deng Xiaoping advocated the suggestion to “suspend dispute, develop jointly” when both countries inked the friendship treaty in 1978. China has followed this suggestion ever since for the long-term development of bilateral relations.

Forty years ago, the elder generation of statesmen from both countries overcame great difficulties and made the strategic decision, which has proved to be significant for the normalization of bilateral diplomatic relations. Their decision is based on the common interests of both peoples.

Today, leaders of both countries should inherit the political wisdom and draw lessons from their predecessors to act smartly and responsibly.

The friendship today between China and Japan is extremely valuable. Both sides should pay special attention to care for it. Sensitive issues, such as the Diaoyu Islands dispute, are crucial tests for both sides.

If the hard-won bilateral friendship is harmed by any individual politician’s personal benefits, the loss for both nations will definitely outweigh their personal gains and waste the previous efforts of both peoples.

ICCR Notes :

This will be a short war between both countries that will not escalate if China does not push into Japan proper and stops after control of Diaoyu Islands is controlled, or if Japan does not get USA in to help Japan militarily. If the latter happens, then WW3 occurs as Russia will enter as well as the Kurils will be next if Diaoyu falls. All ‘WW3 potential’ parties should let China and Japan sort this out – a nice little war ending with Diaoyu being ceded seems tolerable yes? Extreme technology not-withstanding (dirty bombs or sneaking in poisonous (Kobe beef? Addictive substances included?) or nanotech saturated (mind drones?!?)food to Hong Kong does not count), Japan should just stop claiming what was established during the Yuan Period or else face an embarassment from China’s military pushback if the unchallengeable titanium clad historical pushback fails to appeal to Japan’s common sense. This is a localized regional claim that (also equidistance consideration-wise being so very much nearer to China) Japan cannot win even an ethical stance and should just preserve the peace for. Japan in fact could build their own fisheries and artificial islands instead of ride on the back of WW2’s failures.

In fact Liúqiú Islands (Ryukyu) which was a sovereign territory which was controlled by a tiny Kingdom with their own Royalty that chose Imperial China as Sovereign under vassalship, was forcibly occupied and controlled by Japan when China was at the weakest during the Manchu Invasion against the Ming Dynasts. Clearly Japan did not respect the Liqiu Monarch’s wishes and took advantage of the Ming era Manchu invasions, to bully and abuse China’s CONSENSUAL vassals, even dare claim control of the same even today! Japan’s factions who today wish to claim Ryukyu have no ethics or historical understanding!

Early History of The Liuqiu Kingdom (Ryukyu) and its Relationship with China and Japan

The history of the Liuqiu Kingdom Kingdom previous to the Meiji Restoration provides a depiction of an island kingdom that maintained a high degree of national sovereignty that was eventually shattered by colonial domination by Japan’s Satsuma-han in the 17th century. From the earliest times, the Liuqiu Kingdom Kingdom occupied a privileged position to the south of Japan due largely to its trade and cultural links with China. Despite the fact that Japan had exercised brief contacts with the kingdom from the 7th to the 9th century, Japan’s attempts to interfere with Liuqiu Kingdom’s domestic affairs virtually disappeared until the 17th century.

Until that time, the Liuqiu Kingdom Kingdom maintained it’s strongest economic and cultural ties with China as a vassal kingdom subject to and protected by the Imperium, and remained in somewhat constant contact with the Asian continent, through China. From the 14th century on, the Liuqiu Kingdom Kingdom developed a tributary relationship with China, which while symbolically signifying the Liuqiu Kingdom Kingdom’s status under China (as demonstrated in a pledge of loyalty made by the Liuqiu Kingdoman King to the Chinese Emperor) basically maintained the Liuqiu Kingdom Kingdom’s independent status as a nation.

In typical Chinese style, in no way did China’s Imperials seek to interfere in Liuqiu Kingdom’s domestic affairs, but merely sought to maintain cordial relations with the kingdom (which by the 16th century had consolidated all of the islands in the archipelago under centralized monarchical rule, with it’s capitol at Shuri castle on the island of Okinawa). China’s preeminent status had several key implications for the people of Liuqiu Kingdom. Even then in 1765 Japanese maps detailed the region as Chinese controlled :

三國=琉球、蝦夷、朝鮮,當時皆不屬日本。當時還特別有列明為無主島的,是今天的小笠原群島。The 3 Country maps shows Japan and its 3 sovereign neighbors, Liquiu, Korea and Hokkaido which was not even part of Japan in 1765. Only in 1869 did the Edo Shogunate control Hokkaido, Liqui however retained Chinese vassal status up to 1609 with the Japanese probably expecting Qing Era China to reclaim the islands by the map maker’s mindset in 1765. Little did the mapmaker know, that only in 2012 would the Liuqius be reclaimed by China!

It provided legitimacy to the Liuqiu Kingdom Monarchy, and also established the manner in which Chinese ethics and cultural customs eventually entered into the Liuqiu Kingdom. Most importantly, however, it’s status as a tributary allowed the Liuqiu Kingdom Kingdom access to trade with China, which would serve to boost the Liuqiu Kingdoms status in terms of mercantile affairs.

The most significant change in status for this time period came in 1609 with the invasion of the Liuqiu Kingdom by the Satsuma-han of Japan. In this time period, Satsuma took control of the Liuqiu Kingdom from the Liuqiu Kingdom monarchy, and placed the northern islands of Amami under direct Satsuma rule, while allowing the rest of the kingdom to remain under a sort of semi-colonial jurisdiction. In many ways, the experiences of the Amami islands differed vastly and far more harshly from the rest of the kingdom. The Amami islands (part of present-day Kagoshima Prefecture) quickly became integral to the growth of Satsuma’s economy and consequently to it’s growth in military strength. With the rapid introduction of the sugar cane industry into the islands and the increasing harshness of Satsuma domain’s leadership in extracting labor from the residents there, islanders underwent a period that they refer to as “Sato jigoku,” or “Sugar Hell.” Through this period of time, they were quickly integrated into Satsuma-han, as a part of Japan.

The rest of the Liuqiu Kingdom, however, was able to maintain some appearances of sovereignty despite the nature of their domination by the Satsuma domain. For the most part, the Sho dynasty, which had previously ruled the Liuqiu Kingdom, was able to remain intact along with its administrative structures. This occurred largely because it was in Satsuma’s political and economic trade interests to keep up the pretense that the Liuqiu Kingdom was still an independent nation. Since the Liuqiu Kingdom had been able to maintain economic trade relations with China, and Japan had broken off those same relations, Satsuma had a vested interest in keeping up Liuqiu Kingdom trade activities with China in order to economically prosper. To that end, the colonialised Liuqiu Kingdom proved indispensable, since by practicing the deception that the Liuqiu Kingdom was still an independent nation free from Japanese control (think Manchuria and the puppet Qing, Japan loves to bahave in this manner), Satsuma was able to use the Liuqiu Kingdom as a means in which to trade Japanese goods with China. Thus, the situation for the Liuqiu Kingdom proved especially cynical, since it remained in Satsuma’s best interests to keep the Liuqiu Kingdom as an independent nation (at least on the surface), while in the Amami islands, Satsuma favored complete integration of the islands into it’s territory.

This relationship, however, changed with the arrival of the western colonial powers, as personified in the arrival of Commodore Matthew Calbraith Perry’s “Black Fleet” in 1854. Stopping first in Okinawa before heading to Tokyo Bay, the Americans that Perry represented became the first colonial threat that Japan was forced to deal with after hundreds of years of isolationism. Faced with this threat, Japan felt the need to take several steps in order to protect itself from colonial encroachments, as had been seen in places like China, “Indochina,” and any of the other colonized Asian nations. Japan quickly embarked on an ambitious program to develop internally on the model of the modern western nation-state. Towards those ends, Japan began a rapid process of industrialization, heightened its sense of national unity, and solidified its borders. In order to learn how to engage in this process of modernization, Japan sent a number of delegations to various western nations to learn from their models, but sadly enough, they learned these lessons at the tail end of the main period of outright western imperialism, and unfortunately learnt the worst and quickly latched onto the military threat backed model of colonialist expansion and empire building.

Map by Cartographer Zheng Ruozeng (1503 – 1570) of the Liuqiu Kingdom (from Illustrated Description of Liuqiu Kingdom)

The Ying Imperial Restoration Era (circa 2009-????)

The Ying Restoration Era which began in 2009, could well see a revival of the Liuqui Kingdom that the world would doubtless be invited to witness. So who needs Japan trying AGAIN to abuse the territorial rights of another country? There is neither logical not ethical basis given the history of relations between the 3 parties above (Rightful Suzerain Imperial China, bullying Kingdom of Japan taking advantage of Manchu invasions in the 15th, and the vassal Kingdom of Liuqiu which CHOSE China as suzerain). The Liuqius were FORCIBLY COLONIZED by Japan, even though it was clear the Liqius wanted China as a suzerain NOT Japan, and by this only China and a revival of the Dragon Throne under Constitutional Monarchy for China can properly represent Liuqiu’s status, dignity and freedom and who knows a seat on the UN if not re-assimilation into neo-Imperial China, even as the 9th Throne is invited to complete the neo-Imperial ASEAN circle of Eastern Thrones . . .

Diaoyu is thus unacceptable for claim by Japan much less Liuqiu be considered under Japanese control! We propose a census survey by neutral parties and Liuqiu’s descendants to affirm the Liuqiu citizens’ response to the above, doubtless, the Liuqiu residents and descendants of Liuqiu’s Royal House, will want either Chinese protection or independence and a UN seat for their newly independent Kingdom, not Japanese control (simply because Japan is 66.8 times smaller, has forcibly occupied Liqui in the past, has a military 100s of times smaller, and who knows Japan is already severely irradiated but keeping quiet . . . Japan is a poor choice as opposed to China’s massive scale and generally enlightened if not chaotic Socialist system), which Japan mercilessly and disrespectfully forcefully enforced with violence or threats of violence in 1609!

As ICCR envisions, perhaps the Liuqui Kingdom could well also be revived alongside the Constitutional Monarch under H.I.M. Ying III being lobbied for. The descendents, commoners and royalty of the Liqius should make haste to reclaim their rightful spaces and lands against Japan’s unjustifiable claims.

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